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Comments for NDNation https://dev.ndnation.com/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Mon, 09 Dec 2019 23:18:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 Comment on Irish Draw Cyclones in Orlando by GOND88 https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-draw-cyclones-in-orlando/#comment-24423 Mon, 09 Dec 2019 23:18:44 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=51349#comment-24423 There shouldn’t be any whining after ND got beat by Michigan 45-14 and regularly get waxed by top ten teams in “big” games. The Ne Year’s 6 bowl committees have to look for the best matchups and most competitive teams and ND under Kelly continues to get outclassed almost from the opening whistle in major bowls.

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Comment on Irish Draw Cyclones in Orlando by Pap https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-draw-cyclones-in-orlando/#comment-24422 Mon, 09 Dec 2019 22:31:52 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=51349#comment-24422 In reply to Joe Cesaro.

Good observation Joe. As stated numerous times, the Michigan loss was absolutely awful. However, was it worse than Georgia’s home loss to unranked South Carolina or Wisconsin’s loss to unranked Illinois? The bias is obvious, but as I posted earlier, I look at them through rose colored glasses.

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Comment on Irish Draw Cyclones in Orlando by Timothy Rastello https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-draw-cyclones-in-orlando/#comment-24421 Mon, 09 Dec 2019 20:58:00 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=51349#comment-24421 In reply to PC.

Hey PC, I did my research and came up with an accurate conclusion if you read my post, which includes the statement: “The new rules of bowl affiliations and selection process put a heavy premium on final ranking” which is another way of saying we had to be ranked higher then Big Ten/SEC teams for the Orange Bowl–same as you conclude. I also received ticket app last week from alumni office for Orange and Cotton Bowls confirming that ND was not precluded from those two Bowls as your email suggests. I understand why certain bowls want to keep their traditional affiliations, but I think ND should do a more effective job of negotiating with the six big bowls to prevent this year’s scenario from repeating itself.

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Comment on Irish Draw Cyclones in Orlando by MATTHEW POLGE https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-draw-cyclones-in-orlando/#comment-24420 Mon, 09 Dec 2019 20:34:48 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=51349#comment-24420 In reply to Brady Quinn.

Brady,
Thank you for injecting a bit of realism into people’s thoughts!! People often times, will look at a match-up and say we deserve better rather than we are going bowling be grateful for the opportunity to end the season on a positive note! Iowa State is coached by a guy that has steadily built a promising program. Iowa St. has won over Texas and taken Oklahoma to the wire!!! Therefore, what people are failing to realize is that Iowa St is a good enough team to take ND to the wire and potentially even win!!! People are just looking at their won-loss record and judging them based on that alone!!! Iowa St could be tough if ND takes them lightly!! Despite my degree in Engineering, I am at a loss as to how the writers and coaches come up with their poll rankings!! There always seems to be an pro-SEC bias and an anti-ND bias!! I suppose until Notre Dame comes thru with a convincing major bowl victory or even an elite victory during the regular season, that bias will always exist!!! Unfortunate, but true!!!

God, Country, and Notre Dame!!!

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Comment on Irish Draw Cyclones in Orlando by Joe Cesaro https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-draw-cyclones-in-orlando/#comment-24419 Mon, 09 Dec 2019 19:55:51 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=51349#comment-24419 It seems like everyone is focused on ND’s loss to Michigan. What about Michigan near loss to Army that should have been a loss?? ND is just viewed negatively by the pollsters and by the committee. I wonder what the ten teams that ND beat feel about them??

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Comment on Irish Draw Cyclones in Orlando by The Obvious https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-draw-cyclones-in-orlando/#comment-24418 Mon, 09 Dec 2019 19:09:32 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=51349#comment-24418 Mr. Vannie: Yes, this is all pitiful. I hope that you have something good to write about, after this game.

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Comment on Irish Draw Cyclones in Orlando by Drasail2 https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-draw-cyclones-in-orlando/#comment-24417 Mon, 09 Dec 2019 17:43:48 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=51349#comment-24417 In reply to PC.

PC,
What really needs to happen is an eight team NCAA playoff with ample opportunity for
highly ranked outsiders to have a crack at fame. Cancel the conference championships
and the whole thing is over by New Year’s day.
In the current college football landscape, with players clamoring to get paid, is there
anything more egregious than these corporate garden parties in Florida with the
big cash payment to the school (and a cute little trophy for the display case)?
Monetizing the whole 40 game show, of course, Walt Disney and Company.
But it is what it is. ND has a crummy bowl record and we face an enthusiastic
well-coached Iowa State team who will not mind a chance to knock us out of the
top 20!
Go Irish.

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Comment on Irish Draw Cyclones in Orlando by PJ McGuigan https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-draw-cyclones-in-orlando/#comment-24416 Mon, 09 Dec 2019 17:05:37 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=51349#comment-24416 In reply to domer262.

You can’t have it both ways. ND and the alumni base want to remain independent so you have to accept the downsides of no conference affiliation. I support independence and the only thing I would have done differently would be 4 ACC games rather than 5. I also would have preferred traditional rivals like Pitt and BC be on the schedule every year.

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Comment on Irish Draw Cyclones in Orlando by Brady Quinn https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-draw-cyclones-in-orlando/#comment-24415 Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:47:07 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=51349#comment-24415 In reply to domer262.

Please don’t down play Iowa State. This will be a very competitive game. I rwould ather play in this game than go play a Top 6 to 8 team and get throttled to end the season. Remember we are down Julian Okwara and two O linemen . Not to mention a running back committee that isn’t really that stellar. I love our guys guys but none of them are Josh Adams . One other final fact. Michigan is getting Alabama. Not the game they wanted, I’m sure.

Go Irish!

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Comment on Irish Draw Cyclones in Orlando by PC https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-draw-cyclones-in-orlando/#comment-24414 Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:11:29 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=51349#comment-24414 In reply to Timothy Rastello.

Hey Tim, If you been researching how this match up happened you wouldn’t have come to this conclusion. It happened because of 2 reasons: ND doesnt have access to the Orange Bowl to replace an ACC team. They can only play against one if they finish ranked ahead of all available Big Ten/SEC teams. (hardly if ever will happen).Even if ND finished a few spots higher they wouldn’t have gotten into a NY6 because this year the 2 host bowls for the playoff are the Peach and Fiesta. When they decided to go to this new 4 team playoff, they unfortunately kept all the other conference affiliations even in the NY6 which is why you have some terribly unnecessary and unappealing games. Penn St/Memphis and UVA/Florida obviously these arent the best matchups and most deserving.

Perhaps one day the TV folks will wake up and demand the next best 12 teams play in the NY6. (I wouldnt even seed the remaining teams so you can avoid rematches and create unique and intriguing games. Imagine in 3 weeks we were set to watch games we hardly ever see: ND vs Oregon, Georgia vs Wisconsin, Bama vs Utah, Auburn vs Iowa, Michigan vs Baylor and Florida vs Penn St.

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