I find it rather ironic that a person who posts under one name and yet gives an email address that indicates a very different one would take Manti Te’o to task for alleged issues with straightforwardness and honesty.

I’m a feminist and a progressive Democrat but Klein’s ND segment ticked me off because he ignored the complexity of that story and didn’t consider that what happened to the accused ND football player could be similar to what happened to the Duke Men’s Lacrosse team. Unfortunately we’ll never know the truth, but as our law says, the accused is innocent until proven guilty. The burden is on the state to prove the accused guilty. While I sympathize with victims of sexual assault, if I sat on a jury, would I find the accused guilty or not? I’m a feminist but I’m also an American citizen who believes in the rule of law.

When I attended ND during the 1981-82 winter, there was a rapist attacking ND women students. The victims then told their stories to the police and ND security who were able to deduce that the perpetrator was not an ND student or employee. He was an ambush predator and used the cover of darkness and other natural and man-made blinds on campus to select and attack his victims. He also wore a ski mask to hide his face. The police believed that this rapist walked on campus from any point surrounding the campus. ND was an open campus not a citadel then. When Spring came and the days were longer, the attacks stopped. The Observer never said that this attacker was caught. The attacks just stopped, so he either gave it up or was caught by police committing a crime someplace else.

I actually like MSNBC’s primetime lineup. Rachel Maddow is my favorite. She’s honest and does fact checking before she does her stories, but when she does commit an error, she admits it to her viewers and explains where she went wrong.

I’ve only warmed up to O’Donnell’s show, “The Last Word”, since October 2012. He’s pretty good about getting his facts straight too and his experience working in the US Senate is valuable when he has to explain some of the arcane stuff that happens in Congress. I just find his delivery style a bit stunted, though he’s gotten a bit better than when I first watched him.

I actually like Ezra Klein as a policy wonk. He’s really good at that stuff, but he still needs work as a TV show host. Hopefully, he, the producers of that ND segment and Mr. O’Donnell will read my email criticizing them about their ND segment and not jump to conclusions about legal cases in the future.

I just cant concur Pat. Its incumbent upon journalists to report facts, not suspicions, and be neutral and let the public decide. Deadshiz, for a lack of a better name I can call them here, did the opposite. They presented half truths and speculation, and formed an opinion based on them and portrayed them to the public as fact, merely to make a name for themselves. Its nothing more than greed on their part. Personally, Id like to see Manti sue the one writer who went around on talk shows accusing him falsely, aka making false and defamatory statements. And though it would be a challenge, yes i think he would win. However, luckily for them Manti is a bigger and better person than they are and will just move on without any ill will. Which brings me to the public. What does it say about us when we constantly jump on any opportunity to bring a good person down? Is it that we just enjoy being bullies? Is it jealousy to make people feel better about their rotten lives? Or is it just plain cowardice in that they are doing it behind a keyboard? I think its all of the above, but I digress…

This is almost too stupid for words.

1) I take it you haven’t read the articles about Catfishing. It’s very common.
2) “Manti didn’t make everyone believe”, he believed.
3) His teamates didn’t, the ones on the record did. One anonymous player did.
4) Absolutely, he’ll be a top pick and a top player.
5) Teo did nothing to ND’s image.

Raise your hand if you think Bob is an idiot

Paul Simon once wrote “I would not be convicted … by a jury of my peers … ”

Manti would be convicted by a jury of his pees for these reasons:

(1) Raise your hand if you know someone, other than Te’o, who claims to have fallen madly in love with a woman he never met, kissed, hugged or anything else that normally happens in the context of a real relationship?

(2) Raise your hand if you think Te’o deserves a pass for making everyone at Notre Dame believe he’d suffered a devastating loss of a girlfriend he’d never met?

(3) Raise your hand if you think Te’o’s teammates would throw him under the bus if they didn’t believe he was a selfish, lying POS?

(4) Raise your hand if you think a single NFL teammate will ever trust Te’o?

(5) Raise your hand if you think Te’o, for however innocent he may have been with respect to the original hoax, has done more damage to Notre Dame’s image than any player in its history by shining us all on?

Sadly, Manti Te’o is a name which I suspect will live in infamy in Notre Dame lore simply because he was so selfish.

To TerryND1983, Thanks for the link. What a joke they are at Msnbc. Yes, I just love how the “journalist” from Slate quotes other people’s reporting(Henneberger) and then makes judgements based on it. Then, when asked if the Fed investigation has brought forth anything, she says, no, not yet but they are in jeopardy of their Title 10 status. Title 10? You would think these hack femnist journalists would at least know a little about what they are talking about….asking too much. I do not like the way the University handled any of this(Ms. Seeberg, D. Sullivan or Manti) but the crappy journalism has got to be called out. I think NBC should be held accountable when msnbc does a hatchet job on us.

Scott, I think you are going to want to check out the Katie Couric interview.

he would have had to know , after like 2 games against navy & a squeakier vs PU, that he would become the first truly defensive Heisman winner in what…forever? better make up a girlfriend, kill her off, bring her back, and then quite possible ruin my (professional) future. give this kid a break He loses 2 grandparents in the same year, thought he made a real connection with someone, and may not be as worldly as the american journalistic community.