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Comments on: Duke Stuns Inept Irish https://dev.ndnation.com/duke-stuns-inept-irish/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Fri, 11 May 2018 16:44:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: ND mike https://dev.ndnation.com/duke-stuns-inept-irish/#comment-19782 Thu, 29 Sep 2016 23:06:13 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5764#comment-19782 Does anyone remember the job Ara did with the same talent that had seriously losing seasons under Ara’s predecessors? The very next year to boot.

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By: Kevin McNamara https://dev.ndnation.com/duke-stuns-inept-irish/#comment-19780 Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:49:36 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5764#comment-19780 In reply to PF Steve.

agree. mention the Administration, which has no soul based on who they honor

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By: Mike Coffey https://dev.ndnation.com/duke-stuns-inept-irish/#comment-19779 Thu, 29 Sep 2016 11:40:09 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5764#comment-19779 In reply to PC.

First off, you’re assuming he’ll keep them all. History shows chances of decommits are higher after a season like this.

Second, he ends up losing half of them next year, or just as bad, has a much more difficult time signing them because next year’s recruits realize he’s a lame duck, and we still end up “waiting on a 2-3 year rebuild at the minimum”.

These are the same arguments made when Davie, Willingham, and Weis were fired. They were wrong then, and they’re wrong now.

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By: Coach https://dev.ndnation.com/duke-stuns-inept-irish/#comment-19778 Thu, 29 Sep 2016 04:18:37 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5764#comment-19778 Hey PC. I’ll give you one example if you fire a coach and replace him with a good coach: Jim Harbaugh. Your arguments are weak. Notre Dame needs a new and better coach. All the excuses Kelly gave at his weekly press conference are on him. All the changes he is putting in should have been standard operating procedure. His days are numbered.

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By: PC https://dev.ndnation.com/duke-stuns-inept-irish/#comment-19777 Wed, 28 Sep 2016 21:32:10 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5764#comment-19777 In reply to Mike Coffey.

He will keep just about all of his recruits after one bad year as opposed to firing him losing half of them and then waiting on a 2-3 year rebuild at the minimum. Again, if I knew who we were replacing him with I mighth say it’s worth the risk but my bet is we wouldn’t land a top echelon coach /recruiter.. Said differently, I believe stability will more likely lead to long term success then shuffling coaches again.

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By: Carlos Bauza https://dev.ndnation.com/duke-stuns-inept-irish/#comment-19776 Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:59:39 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5764#comment-19776 TEXAS sounded the Unmistakable Alarm about Kelly’s coaching.
DUKE started the Countdown for Kelly’s departure.

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By: Mike Coffey https://dev.ndnation.com/duke-stuns-inept-irish/#comment-19775 Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:36:48 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5764#comment-19775 In reply to PC.

So keeping him after a crappy job won’t cost us recruits this year?

Timidity is not what ND was built on.

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By: PC https://dev.ndnation.com/duke-stuns-inept-irish/#comment-19774 Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:17:12 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5764#comment-19774 Lots of posts about axing Kelly which is to be expected after a awful loss and terrible month of football but let’s be careful about replacing the coach. Coaching changes cost you recruits that year and typically it takes most coaches a year or two thereafter to either get the existing players to buy in and flourish within the new system or the full 4 years to get “his” guys in there to be judged appropriately. I still think aside from a handful of coaches Kelly’s got a better shot to get us to a playoff then starting this all over again. I can already here the critics say,” anyone can go 6-6 so why do we need him? I get it— this year is a disaster but I’m just saying I’d prefer staying the course, seeing how or if he can overcome the adversity and give him one more year before starting all over again.

Here are a few examples of good to excellent programs with frequent coaching changes:
Miami: 5 coaches since 2007
Tennessee: 3 coaches since 2009
USC: 3 coaches since 2010
Florida: 3 since 2011
***Just to showcase there hasn’t been a really good season between all of these teams combined despite the hope that change would bring a positive outcome.

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By: PC https://dev.ndnation.com/duke-stuns-inept-irish/#comment-19773 Wed, 28 Sep 2016 13:56:53 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5764#comment-19773 In reply to Vince.

Vince, I understand what your saying but let’s be honest here that defense is as soft as I’ve ever seen and although they are 18-22 year olds, if they can be given all the accolades and even sometimes worshiped when they succeed, I think they can handle being called out for playing with no passion. How many tackles did they miss? Worse then missing a million tackles was in many instances I didnt even see them with a will to get up and reengage in the play.The team did seem disinterested throughout and even Kizer seemed to play dispirited football. Really embarrassing and I will be the first to say Kelly should start to feel the heat and in my opinion gets this season but all bets are off depending on if he losses this team completely. 6-6 or better he should be given one more season but if this thing goes completely south then I am open to cleaning house provided they can get an upgrade. Change for change sake is a terrible idea.

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By: pete https://dev.ndnation.com/duke-stuns-inept-irish/#comment-19771 Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:35:36 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5764#comment-19771 Gene Smith will not come to notre dame . he was here once before. I say Kelly needs to make some staff changes and Gove him next year. If there is no big time turn around next year, Kelly is toast.

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