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Comments on: Folston & Fuller Save Error-Prone Irish https://dev.ndnation.com/folston-fuller-save-error-prone-irish/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Fri, 11 May 2018 16:51:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Dirty https://dev.ndnation.com/folston-fuller-save-error-prone-irish/#comment-16363 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:41:34 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=4814#comment-16363 In reply to Dirty.

Feel free to check the scores of the national championship games this century.

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By: Dirty https://dev.ndnation.com/folston-fuller-save-error-prone-irish/#comment-16362 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:39:59 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=4814#comment-16362 In reply to austindomer.

No, offense wins championships . . . which is a big reason why SEC teams and FSU have been winning national championships.

Welcome to the 21st century.

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By: austindomer https://dev.ndnation.com/folston-fuller-save-error-prone-irish/#comment-16360 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 04:25:06 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=4814#comment-16360 In reply to Dirty.

No, defense wins championships. It’s a big reason why the SEC has had a stranglehold on the crystal football.

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By: Paddy https://dev.ndnation.com/folston-fuller-save-error-prone-irish/#comment-16359 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:29:54 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=4814#comment-16359 ND made that UNC game a lot tougher than it had to be, but give credit to Larry Fedora and his talented recruits. They played pretty well. They have the talent to play, and Fedora put them in great situations by preventing ND from substituting on defense. His up-tempo offense (with strategic personnel substitutions late so the defense couldn’t react) was a thing of beauty. He has always been a great coach (Southern Miss and back to OSU), so he had his boys prepared.
ND just need to take care of the little things on their end. Primarily, taking care of the football. I also think Golson has stepped backwards in his decision-making the past few games. He seems slow to get the ball out of his hands. I also question the waste of the 3rd quarter offensively. It felt like we were trying to protect a lead instead of attacking, but this could have been a mechanism to feel things out for the 4th quarter.
I am not an expert (but I have coached the game for years at the HS level), so I am interested in other observations. I think ND can beat FSU if they clean things up this week at practice and really break down the “must’s” to beat FSU… should be fun to watch Saturday!

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By: nwifan https://dev.ndnation.com/folston-fuller-save-error-prone-irish/#comment-16357 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 00:44:58 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=4814#comment-16357 Golson has been the only playmaker/difference maker most of the season. They live and die on his arm and his feet. They have a patched together offensive line, a talented but raw receiving core, and inconsistent RBs. They receivers mostly haven’t been able to pick up Golston when he is a little off on a throw or when it is a tough catch—the WRs could have come up with some big plays in 3Q and put game away but didn’t. Hopefully, Folston’s emergence can carry on and take a little weight off Golson. Golson dug them a hole, but Golson’s dug them out.

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By: flirish https://dev.ndnation.com/folston-fuller-save-error-prone-irish/#comment-16355 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 23:23:20 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=4814#comment-16355 for the comments regarding lack of QB development in decades, godson has developed a lot and by the way Brady Quinn developed a lot so that person who said that hasn’t watched much ND football in the past few years
The defense was porous last week but 21 of the 43 came off of turnovers including a pic 6 so the defense which did not play great was not as bad as the points suggested. Finally, good field position gives the offense freedom to do things and puts the defense on its heels is a major issue for ND because we have horrible special teams right now and have since Kelly has been coach. that is one thing that has to improve or we can’t compete with good teams

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By: USAF Irish https://dev.ndnation.com/folston-fuller-save-error-prone-irish/#comment-16352 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 19:41:25 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=4814#comment-16352 Note before ND beat Miami in 1988:
Notre Dame, a loser to Pittsburgh three years in a row, narrowly avoided another such upset as the Irish improved to 5-0 on the season.[12
] The 30-20 victory in the rain did little to inspire confidence that Notre Dame could beat No. 1 Miami the following week.[12] The Panthers made a number of critical mistakes that led the Panthers to believe they did more to lose the game more than Notre Dame did to win it.[12] “We could have won the game,” said Panther coach Mike Gottfried, “but we made just enough mistakes to lose it.”[12]
Notre Dame was ranked #5…

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By: BinCA https://dev.ndnation.com/folston-fuller-save-error-prone-irish/#comment-16350 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 16:59:08 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=4814#comment-16350 All of you characters calling Kelly a bum are nuts. Our team is really, really young. If all you were looking at when evaluating North Carolina was the score of their previous games this year, you came into this game ill informed as to the talent level on the other side of the field. Yes, the Tar Heels had lost games due to tons of turnovers and lack of focus, but their coach was also trying to figure out which quarterback he was going to go with. But going into South Bend, you knew these talented guys would focus and the coach stuck with the better QB. Plus, every team gives ND their best shot so they can tell their grandchildren some day about the time they beat ND.

Now should the game have been so close? No. Golson again couldn’t hold onto the ball when running and threw some late/bad balls. As I said last week, I love his competitive fire, his toughness, his willingness to take a big hit and pop right back up and the pure talent he has. What I continue to see from him though is hesitation, especially after he has made some mistakes or gotten pressured continually in a game. He sees that a receiver is going to come open, and you can even see his body undulate like he subconsciously wants to make the throw. But he waits an extra second until the receiver makes the cut and delivers the ball late or then pulls it down and goes to his later reads or runs. If you need some context here, think of Eli Manning. If you watched the Eagles game last night, he became skittish because the center couldn’t plug the middle of the line and pressure was coming right up the gut. So even when Eli had time, his feet weren’t set properly and he hesitated. This is some of what Golson is dealing with as well due to the line not keeping proper protection right up the gut on passing downs. So it isn’t all just on Golson. If Golson doesn’t spot NC 14 points right off the bat due to turnovers, however, the game would probably have played out a bit more comfortably in our favor. But give the offense credit for continuing to produce and bail out a shoddy performance on defense.

When an offense scores as many points as ours did on Saturday, the blame for a close game rests squarely on the shoulders of the defense. Our defense struggled against an offense in NC that was very multiple. Their QB was on target with his arm, was good with his feet and was a load to tackle. Remember, if you want to talk about dumb coaching, the NC coach was rotating this QB with another one who was a drop back turnover machine. What was he thinking? When you have a QB who can throw and run it makes the defense have to play a very smart game and stay in their assignments. We have a young, athletic defense who didn’t always do that. We also, for some reason, had a tough time tackling. Not sure why that was, but I’m going to guess that the multiple looks had our guys hesitating a step, thinking too much before reacting. This was a very, very good primer before heading to FSU. I am actually really glad that we faced NC’s offense and were able to get a primer for a mobile quarterback who can throw right before the big showdown.

This next weekend, we will see another QB who can run the ball. Winston actually doesn’t throw lasers if you watch his games, having more of a Tebow-esque arc on the ball. What he does have is good timing (leads his receivers right under the balls that hit softly in their hands) and receivers who will fight for the ball. He is also a killer when he runs the ball because you have to respect the pass so much and he is very athletic. If ND plays a clean game in the turnover department this game will be a barn burner. If we lose the turnover battle, we most likely get beat. Golson and Winston are both unbeaten in the regular season as starters. One of those streaks will end Saturday. Here’s hoping it is our guy, the one who also showed the character to sit out the year, come back to school, and finish what he started.

Go Irish!

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By: Terry https://dev.ndnation.com/folston-fuller-save-error-prone-irish/#comment-16349 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 15:53:21 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=4814#comment-16349 Hopefully we don’t see another replay of the 2012 season: only really good team we play and we get hammered. The team needs to work on the fine details, and I thought EG had a whole year off at some elite QB camp in Cali to work those things out. He looks like a headcase out there, and we can beat ok teams with him a the helm on offense but not elite like FSU. I think Malik Zaire has explosiveness and durability to run the ball and give teams fits in the spread, and that will make the passing game easier for him. I would hate to see us get on the field against the only elite team we play and get totally outclassed because our players are not given the preparation and confidence that a wise coach provides to win at top levels. I haven’t seen on QB progress at ND for decades, and in this offense you need a really mature and effective QB to go all the way. I don’t think EG is either one, but he is like a crap shoot, so hopefully he comes out as Dr Jeckel and not Mr Hyde.

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By: Dirty https://dev.ndnation.com/folston-fuller-save-error-prone-irish/#comment-16343 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 04:42:16 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=4814#comment-16343 In reply to 2014.

Not really. Offense wins championships . . . welcome to the 21st century.

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