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Comments on: Horns Outmuscle Irish in OT https://dev.ndnation.com/horns-outmuscle-irish-in-ot/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Fri, 11 May 2018 16:44:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: SOS - Same Old Story https://dev.ndnation.com/horns-outmuscle-irish-in-ot/#comment-19493 Fri, 09 Sep 2016 15:40:54 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5717#comment-19493 BVG should have been fired after the Stanford game last year. Great coaches know when to pull the plug when things don’t improve.

BVG hasn’t kept a job for than two years before arriving at ND. What does that tell us???? HE SUCKS!!!!

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By: PC https://dev.ndnation.com/horns-outmuscle-irish-in-ot/#comment-19491 Thu, 08 Sep 2016 19:05:42 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5717#comment-19491 In reply to Jake.

Jake,
I agree about the defense being terrible. I still cringe at the thought of a frosh QB throwing the same deep pass to the same player running the same route. Inexcusable to me. I also think we didn’t tackle well at the end of the game or we still would’ve won. I’m sure they wore down but again still no excuse. There was adjustments made, in fairness and after getting hit in the mouth they erased a 17pt deficit in part because they D got about 4 stops in a row and a turnover. I understand that we as fans overreact to any lose particularly week 1 and its gloom and doom and we will never win again. Sorry, I’m annoyed but not illogical. We will win against Nevada by 4tds and after we beat Mich St things will settle down a bit. I thought 10-2 before the year starts so until we dont finish with that record and I’m not acting like we are on the titanic.

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By: PC https://dev.ndnation.com/horns-outmuscle-irish-in-ot/#comment-19490 Thu, 08 Sep 2016 18:57:25 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5717#comment-19490 In reply to Mike Coffey.

Mike, I don’t like everything Kelly does- I was offering the most likely explanation as to why he would go to Zaire to start the second half. All spring he said they were equal so going into the game he must have planned to give the non starter the first possession of the second half. That didn’t cost them the game. The atrocious Defense did that. I am not a Van Gorder fan and by extension Kelly has to take heat for his coaching hires. Again, I don’t love everything about him and I’m not scared to replace him if I had a coach whom I thought was perfect for everything that comes with ND but since I don’t and they have had immense trouble landing the big fish, I’m okay with sticking with him. If i saw a regression in recruiting or losses at home to inferior opponents my opinion would change rather quickly. Full disclosure I’m in my mid 30’s and unfortunately I have a hard time parting with a coach who has been the second best in my lifetime and with whom I see having made significant improvements over the previous 15 years of garbage.

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By: Jake https://dev.ndnation.com/horns-outmuscle-irish-in-ot/#comment-19489 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 18:52:36 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5717#comment-19489 In reply to PC.

PC, with all due respect, we lost a game because we were not prepared defensively
to execute on any level..

It’s the same old story over and over again.. Enough already..

Kelly is stubborn and arrogant.. He got outcoached!! There’s no way around it..

I’ve given plenty of names in the past in who would be a better coach..

We will struggle with Nevada this weekend.. That’s how bad this has gotten.

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By: Mike Coffey https://dev.ndnation.com/horns-outmuscle-irish-in-ot/#comment-19488 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 16:26:11 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5717#comment-19488 In reply to PC.

“He must have promised him that”. So one of the reasons we lost a game was so a coach could “keep a promise” to a player? Something as specious as that doesn’t bother you? You think a coach who would do that is in any way top-tier?

Personally, I think Tom Herman can do better. But at this point, I’ve seen what Kelly’s ceiling is, and it’s short of what ND should expect from its coaches. He should have fired VanGorder last year, and ND is going to miss another chance for a title because of it. If you’re too scared to try to replace mediocrity with something that can be better, that’s on you.

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By: PC https://dev.ndnation.com/horns-outmuscle-irish-in-ot/#comment-19487 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 14:18:36 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5717#comment-19487 In reply to Jake.

Jake, they lost a game on the road in which they were 3 pt favorites in. A true road game versus these neutral site pretend road games by the way. Texas probably has the 2nd or 3rd most talent of any team on the schedule and this was a scary game as they have been drawing ND’s name in the sand for a year and put everything into this game defining their season. I will give Kelly crap for not letting Kizer the run the team after the one possession he gave to Zaire was ineffective. I really didn’t understand why Zaire started the first possession of 2nd half. He must have promised him that because it made no sense. Saying all that I am quite dissapointed in their ability to stop the deep ball and make a freshmen complete something other then running a go route and throwing it as far as he can. Van Gorder its not working buddy! As for they never win a big game- they shouldve beat FSU and a phantom call prevented and they lost by 2 to the runner ups last yr also on the road. By the time Stanford and Ohio ST games were played they had no one healthy. You can call those all excuses or understand they are facts and you have to make an informed decision when debating letting a coach go. Again I ask everyone who wants Kelly gone who are we replacing him with that will do any better? Until there is a big time proven coach ready to come here he’s the guy hands down to me.

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By: Aaron https://dev.ndnation.com/horns-outmuscle-irish-in-ot/#comment-19486 Tue, 06 Sep 2016 22:57:10 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5717#comment-19486 In reply to Bill.

Oh how blinded are we?!

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By: Aaron https://dev.ndnation.com/horns-outmuscle-irish-in-ot/#comment-19485 Tue, 06 Sep 2016 22:55:30 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5717#comment-19485 In reply to EpK44.

Amen to that!!!!!

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By: marleyman https://dev.ndnation.com/horns-outmuscle-irish-in-ot/#comment-19484 Tue, 06 Sep 2016 22:00:35 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5717#comment-19484 In reply to Jake.

Sorry Jake, Kelly signed a monster extension. Just like Charlie did.

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By: NDBonecrusher https://dev.ndnation.com/horns-outmuscle-irish-in-ot/#comment-19483 Tue, 06 Sep 2016 17:00:58 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5717#comment-19483 Ooooh, to have Bobby Diaco back.
You know, reading the posts above and listening to BK’s comments, one would think that “there’s plenty of blame to go around”, but I don’t know if that’s accurate. If the D were just one tiny squeak better, it’s a close finish that never goes to OT. BK please do something decisive to fix the D. The offense is too damn good to give up 500 yards and lose to an unranked team with a frosh QB.

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