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Comments on: Irish beat themselves, but not Clemson https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-beat-themselves-but-not-clemson/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Fri, 11 May 2018 16:51:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Terry https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-beat-themselves-but-not-clemson/#comment-18235 Thu, 08 Oct 2015 11:01:04 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5427#comment-18235 In reply to Tricio.

Gotta disagree – with the talent on this roster there have to be a lot of coaches out there who would jump at the chance.

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By: Mike Coffey https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-beat-themselves-but-not-clemson/#comment-18234 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 23:04:06 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5427#comment-18234 In reply to JT.

As I said, great depth. Everyone said so going into the season.

If not this season, when? What happens next year when a lot of this talent leaves and the iffy recruiting of the last couple seasons hits us harder?

This was the no-excuses year. I’m not interested in excuses. The tank is empty.

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By: JT https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-beat-themselves-but-not-clemson/#comment-18233 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 19:50:56 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5427#comment-18233 In reply to Mike Coffey.

MIke Coffey

I would challenge any team to lose their top 4 offensive weapons and still compete. Golson, Zaire, Folston and Bryant all gone. Yet the team shows up and competes. Next man in.

That is due to good recruiting, better player development and excellent coaching. Good enough? No. But pretty incredible considering the situation.

Some credit to Coach Kelly for testing Prosis at RB in the spring otherwise we would have a true frosh at running back. And moving Jerry Tillery to tackle before Jarron Jones went down. This team is resilent and that comes from good coaching.

The program is at its highest point since the Holtz heydays…. and I think it is built to compete year-after-year.

I for one have been impressed with what Coach Kelly has built at ND. Would I like to see another National Championship, you bet. Could it be this year? We shall see.

Are we an excellent program with him at the helm? I think so. Time will tell.

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By: Scott https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-beat-themselves-but-not-clemson/#comment-18232 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 17:26:26 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5427#comment-18232 In reply to bocceman2.

“Kelly waited until down 21-3 to start throwing. Should have done that early and often but he was determined to run the ball even though our line was getting stuffed.”

If they had started throwing earlier, that would have softened their front and then the running lanes would have opened. But, since I am not a coach, what do I know, right?

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By: Scott https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-beat-themselves-but-not-clemson/#comment-18231 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 17:24:11 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5427#comment-18231 In reply to Fulkerson’s Ghost.

30 years? Um, 1988?? How about every season under Lou? 1994 was the only real season where they weren’t seriously contending. I would agree with 20 years of mediocre seasons. No way I agree with 30.

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By: Scott https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-beat-themselves-but-not-clemson/#comment-18230 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 17:21:50 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5427#comment-18230 In reply to Ghost of Joe Moorw.

Yeah, they’re all probably worried that Kelly might blow a cerebral artery if they make a mistake. So, they play tight. If he would just relax a little and let them play, he might find that these guys can play with anyone.

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By: Scott https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-beat-themselves-but-not-clemson/#comment-18229 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 17:19:13 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5427#comment-18229 In reply to irishhawk50.

“I also agree with those who say the Irish are not in the same class as an Alabama or Baylor”

Really??? I happen to disagree. I think they can play with anyone in the country and proved that with the comeback they put up in the 4th quarter.

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By: Scott https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-beat-themselves-but-not-clemson/#comment-18228 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 17:17:12 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5427#comment-18228 In reply to Tom Gillen.

LOU HOLTZ took every loss on himself. Do you ever recall Lou pointing the finger at anybody but himself?? Get real, man. Sure, Robinson dropped a pass. However, Robinson shouldn’t have even been in that situation to drop the pass with 14:13 left in the game. Even if he had made the catch, I still wouldn’t have agreed with the call at that point.

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By: TE21 https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-beat-themselves-but-not-clemson/#comment-18227 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 01:44:50 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5427#comment-18227 It is good to hear from some people supporting the coaches. As I mentioned previously, I am not sure who many of you would be satisfied with and before you say Urban Meyer, he had a chance to come to South Bend. Why didn’t he? Hopefully the two point conversion issue can be put to rest. However, since many want to talk in the “what if world” if the first conversion is made we kick two extra points to win not tie for he game at the end. It is easy to make judgements after you already no the outcomes. I would give Coach Kelly this advice: Tell your players not to read the comments on this site because it might make them wonder if they are supported. All is not lost on this season. GO IRISH!

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By: willyd https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-beat-themselves-but-not-clemson/#comment-18226 Tue, 06 Oct 2015 22:32:18 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5427#comment-18226 You critics- shut the he** up!!! What are you talking about!!?? Yes, I totally agree the 2 pt conversion this year and against NW last year were total mistakes. But HE PUT THE TEAM IN A POSITION TO WIN! They just didn’t execute. Isn’t that all Lou ever wanted to do- be in a position to win? Last year’s loss to FSU was really a bad penalty call (let’s not debate it here), but guess what- road games against good teams are sometimes won/lost on a single deciding moment. Yes, the other mistakes also play a role, but there are mistakes in EVERY game. So you have to win the 50/50 calls/plays- and last year and last Saturday we did not. NOT KELLY’s FAULT! He may not be my favorite coach, but anyone that can take a team with the personnel losses we’ve had, and still be competitive is doing ok. And for all you ‘experts’ with a ‘holier than thou’ attitude, let’s drop last year. The collapse was inevitable. Playing as many Frosh and first year players was never going to work against good teams. I can’t believe so many people don’t see how the ‘collapse’ occurred. By USC they were done, and it showed. But look at the bowl game after having a chance to heal up and regroup. So please stop with all your banter about firing Kelly. If that’s the game you want to play, go root for Alabama. People wanted him fired after a perfect season! Sounds like you’d fit right in down there.

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