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Comments on: Irish Fall in Second Overtime https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:41:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Irish Sting https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-434 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:41:22 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-434 The party is soon to be over. A season that started out to be a run at the top is now "how low can you go".

Charlie is facing the ultimate in humble pie. He took the challenge of Notre Dame and oh what a challenge, to be the best of the best.

Urban Meyer knew better than to come to ND for the ultimate challenge. Why go somewhere where every team you face will fight to the death to beat you for the entire game. Name me a team in college football that is hated more than Notre Dame? The teams that beat ND with less talent have won their Super Bowl when they do.

To expect the Irish to go 10 and 2 consistently with every team out their wanting to kill the Irish is one Tall Order.

Hats off to Charlie for trying to do the superhuman job of facing the other teams and his own alumni and sub way alumni. The abuse he has recieved for his efforts one can only imagine. He knew this job is not for the weak.

For the most part all coaches face firing, some more than others. That goes with the territory. To coach at Notre Dame takes a truly rare individual.

I cast my vote for Brian Kelly an Irishman with a true BRAVE HEART willing to face all odds, the Alumni and the Schedule.

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-435 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:54:40 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-435 "We should all hold ourselves to that same standard when it comes to being human beings. One of our own did his very best and now has to worry about the pain his family endured during that tenure. We should all be ashamed."

You can put up with a lot of pain for the $30 mil Weis walks away with, and believe me, no one have suffered as much as the Notre Dame students and fans as a result of this pompous, overrated egomaniac.

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By: irishkevo@yahoo.com https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-436 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:29:43 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-436 Great piece by John Walters of FanHouse:

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2009/11/23/exclusive-charlie-weis-opens-up-about-his-notre-dame-experience/

It's a shame that this guy – bravado and all – has to walk away with is head hung low after putting so much into this job. You can be sure that he is referring to a number of regularly-contributing jagoffs on this site when he talks about the pain his family has endured. So much pain that his son, who walks the sidelines with his Dad week-in and week-out and probably bleeds more blue and gold than any one of us ever will, won’t even consider Notre Dame as his college.

Our revered Coach Holtz, a guy we’d all believe if he told us it was raining while he was pissing down our backs, even told him privately, "you guys are so close." But we, the Notre Dame alumni and loyal subway alums, can't give the guy the time needed to return the program to glory on – ironically – our own terms. We all want to compete and be able to hold ourselves to a higher standard academically. Just ain't happenin' in five years – not even if Urban comes here.

We should all hold ourselves to that same standard when it comes to being human beings. One of our own did his very best and now has to worry about the pain his family endured during that tenure. We should all be ashamed.

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-437 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:12:07 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-437 Couple o'comments:

1. Looks like the alum who put up the billboard above The Linebacker (wishing Charlie well on the 5th year of his college coaching internship) knew EXACTLY what he was talking about.

2. For those who think ND, or any other school, needs a highly-vaunted recruiting class to be good, just look at what Stanford has done this season… equal or TOUGHER academic standards than ND and no recruiting powerhouse, yet they beat 2 top 10 teams, including dismantling USC. Or look at Cincinnati – kind of like what Urban was able to do at Utah to earn his spot at Florida. A bunch of 5-star recruits don't always turn out to be the best "team" — and a quality head coach makes a team better than the sum of its parts. ND needs to find a head coach that knows how to recruit "beyond the numbers" — you look for coachable, smart kids who actually believe there is no "I" in team. Those kids always excel and play well above their talent. Then again, as arrogant as Charlie is, he probably can't grasp that concept.

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-438 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:54:29 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-438 Scratch Tony Dungy off the list.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/11/tony-dungy-not-interested-in-any-coaching-job-anywhere-including-notre-dame.html

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-439 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:10:58 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-439 For an offensive minded coach, I think CW made a tactical mistake in not going for a winning two point conversion in the first overtime. ND defense had not been able to stop the run in the fourth quarter, and was lucky to have two touchdowns called back and a field goal missed. Easy to say in retrospect, but if the coach had faith in his offense, he should have gone for the win when the advantage was his. Recall the Fiesta Bowl 2007 overtime when Boise State went for the win over Oklahome, a brilliant tactical decision and play call which resulted in a huge upset win.

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-440 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:32:12 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-440 Urban Meyer says he's not interested in Notre Dame job.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2009/11/meyer-says-hes-not-interested-in-notre-dame/1

Watch for Bob Stoops and Nick Saban to follow suit shortly.

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By: Terrence https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-441 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:28:28 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-441 Weis came in as the tough NJ guy, now he feels sorry for his players, his family, and he doesn't say it, but for himself as well. I think the guy must have some mental problems, b/c he could move the ball his 1st 2 years, and now has so many weapons as on offense but can't score more than 20 points against mediocre teams. Clearly, and I've seen people post this before, he can't handle the braod responsibilities of being a headcoach. He's so overwhelmed, he can't even run the offense anymore, and his defense looks like a mid-tier WAC team's. Might sound cheesy, but all I can say is . . . "Sorry Charlie!"

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-442 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:55:49 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-442 The fat lady has sung! It is time for ND to hire a real head football coach on the merits, without regard to his religious affiliation or lack of past connections to ND.

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-443 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:55:10 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/irish-fall-in-second-overtime/#comment-443 Anonymous said:

Next year, if we put the pieces together right, we could have a championship team.

Please stop this talk.

We are a below-average team and lucky enough to have 3 guys who could play on any team in the country. Most of the rest would be lucky to play for lower Big Ten schools and some wouldn't even play for D2 schools.

We have coaches who would rank at the bottom 25 percentile by any measure of performance.

I am now convinced that New England won Super Bowls despite CW. They continued to win after he left and compete at the highest level every year. What exactly did CW contribute?

We are nowhere near being able to compete at a national level. Could you imagine what the outcome would be if we had to play Alabama, Florida, and Georgia over the final weeks of the season?

I don't know what the answer is, but I would rather lose games playing like men and showing true sportsmanship than acting like we do on the field now.

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