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Comments on: Irish Sneak Past Panthers https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-sneak-past-panthers/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Fri, 11 May 2018 16:51:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Scott https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-sneak-past-panthers/#comment-5044 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:58:32 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2592#comment-5044 In reply to JohnND1985.

Well, if Eiffert makes a damn move to the ball (I was sitting right above that play at Heinz field) instead of waiting for the ball to hit his hands there is 6 pts (7 pts if PAT is good). If Ruffer makes a FG there is another 3. There were 10 pts left OFF the scoreboard. They convert, ND hangs 25 on Pitt. Am I missing something?

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By: FJ Murray 79 https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-sneak-past-panthers/#comment-5026 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 00:17:09 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2592#comment-5026 In reply to Drew Allen.

I was at the game. A huge momentum swing occurred with the roughing penalty after a big 3 and out on first series of second half deep in Pitt territory. The defense was very high after the stop, and after the penalty came back out without energy, and Pitt went right down the field. First of all, I don’t think it was a 15 yd penalty, it appeared that Collingsworth landed under the punter without touching him, and the punter fell on him. We can blame the kid, but the bigger question: why call a punt block when we will be getting the ball with a short field and momentum? I think it was a poor call by the coaching staff. One can only speculate, but the game may have been much different on that one play, I sensed big ND momentum, and perhaps a bigger point difference maybe even a blowout. The defense should not have gotten so emotionally high after the stop or low after the penalty. The coach should not have taken a stupid risk on a punt block call at that time, and the kid should not have run into the kicker. But, they finally overcame that momentum shift, and got an ugly win with a very good drive and a better defensive stop at the end of the game. Better than a loss.

Crist is not the answer, his reads are slower than Rees’, too afraid to make a mistake, and holds the ball too long. Stick with Rees, keep getting better at preparing the kids emotionally as well as physically, and at making less coaching mistakes. There is enough athletic skill to win a lot of games. Go Irish.

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By: Drew Allen https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-sneak-past-panthers/#comment-5024 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:21:03 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2592#comment-5024 austinirish – you are nuts if you think this team can run the table… I hope you are right but i don’t think it’s possible without making the switch to Crist.

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By: Drew Allen https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-sneak-past-panthers/#comment-5023 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:04:36 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2592#comment-5023 Tommy Rees is horrible and i’m one of the people that wanted him to get a chance… I believe Rees has 9 tunovers and 6 of them in the redzone compared to his 8 TD’s. He is slow with a weak arm… Bring back Dayne Crist… he was benched after just 1 INT… I don’t get it?

Doesn’t Kelly understand that Rees doesn’t have the arm strength to throw out-routes.. He’s a pick-six waiting to happen every time he throws that type of pass. Irish have a better chance with Crist.

I think the Pitt game was the worst for the offense despite the W. They make me sick to watch.

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By: teo https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-sneak-past-panthers/#comment-5021 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:11:11 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2592#comment-5021 In reply to nb.

Right now, Rees is the 21st most effective passer in the NCAA and he’s not playing cupcakes. I would stay with Rees. He’s not perfect, but he is very effective. Given the defense we have, Rees will do the job.

With respect to your comments on the defensive secondary, I think I agree. We seem to be able to get to the q, but when we don’t there are too many open receivers. We have to fight that. And, yes, punting — it is awful.

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By: Fitz https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-sneak-past-panthers/#comment-5020 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:04:57 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2592#comment-5020 An ugly win if I ever did see one! But hey a win is a win is a win. Chalk this one up to our defense. They were put in bad positions time and again, but still stood firm. This was undoubtedly Tommy Rees’s worse game yet under center. I admit there was a time in the 4th quarter when we were still down 12-7 when I was questioning Brian Kelly’s choice to give up on Crist so quickly after just one half of football. But I had to eat my words as Rees put together a perfect 8 for 8 drive and a 2 point conversion when we needed it the most. Kinda like the last drive against Southern Cal last year and Michigan this year. Last minute game winning drives is the hallmark of great ND quarterbacks. I’m not saying Rees is great yet by any means but to already be 6-1 as a starter he could well be on his way (how long did it take Jimmy Clausen to win his first 6 games?). To me the player of the game, at least offensively was Tyler Eifert! Who needs a guy like Carlson when we have Eifert? If teams are gonna dump so many DB’s on Floyd, Eifert could have a monster year. Happy to see Jonas Gray run like a beast too. I think Rees will pick it back up this week against a weaker Purdue defense. Go Irish!

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By: nb https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-sneak-past-panthers/#comment-5016 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 02:15:13 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2592#comment-5016 A lot of good, insightful and respectful comments. Fun to read. Comments about whether Crist would be playing more had he not been named starter are very interesting and seem on point. Team moved right down the field with him as qb in USF game. He didn’t fumble at the 3 yard line and have it run back for a touchdown. That changed the game. He still is best option at qb in my opinion. Can’t agree with comments that team doesn’t respond to him or that he has bad body language on the sidelines. What kind of body language should a starter have when he is benched in favor of someone who has 9 turnovers to his one? Also found interesting the comments about how tough ND schedule is. Michigan is 4-0 on the strength of beating ND and those other college football powerhouses – Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan and San Diego State. USF put 70 points on Florida A & M and then beat the other powerhouses on its schedule – UTEP, ND and Ball State. So far, a 4-0 winning record by those opponents is not impressive. Maybe they will prove to be very good teams. However, ND should have beaten both teams by 3 touchdowns, particularly MIchigan, which ND dominated for 3+ quarters. And if USF doesn’t score on the 97 yard fumble return, that game isn’t close either. I agree with the comment that questions are beginning to pile up with respect to this team. Running backs and defensive line are pleasant surprises. Thought the secondary had turned a corner against USC last year but no evidence of that this year. Under Ara and Lou you could see overall progress from year to year. In recent years it seems that when progress is made in one area, the team regresses in other phases of the game. No sense that everyone is getting better, as a whole, from year to year. Finally, lack of talent does not seem to be the problem anymore – except with respect to the punter, field goal kicker and punt returner. ND is no longer getting out-muscled. That is a good thing. Just need better ball protection and the team could become very good. Anyone scout the Interhall teams for a punter? Just kidding.

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By: Brian Mack https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-sneak-past-panthers/#comment-5014 Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:29:40 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2592#comment-5014 I agree that Notre Dame was NOT prepared for what the Pitt defense thru at them and to me this reflects on the coaching. I have been up to now a huge Brian Kelly supporter but I am seeing things each week which are forcing me to be loose confidence:

– Is it really a surprise that teams are going to have a game plan to take Floyd out of the game? We apparently had no immediate answer and adjustment to this?
– Are we ever going to let the quarterback run? The ND offense is specifically designed to for the quarterback to read the defensive end and occasionally take off. How long will we run an offense at less than 100%
– How did we wind up with the worst punter in Div 1 football?
– Does Kelly really think that having an out of control screaming meltdown on the sideline each week it is a good way to teach and develop quarterbacks? (I think this is much of Dayne Christ’s problem)
– Why can’t ND run a well executed screen play? (either to a wide receiver or running back)
– Why if we run a hurry up/no huddle offense do we seem to have insufficient time to get off most plays??
– Why have we not seen Everett Golson for a least a few snaps so far as a change of pace and to give something for future opponents to worry about and prepare for??

I know we won the game but for me the questions are starting to pile up.

Brian

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By: algoldendomer https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-sneak-past-panthers/#comment-5012 Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:59:44 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2592#comment-5012 In reply to Jim Kress.

Check your facts, please. Montana’s 1977 starts do not bear out your premise – that he played “down” to the competition:

MSU 16-6
Army 24-0
#5 USC 49-19
Navy 43-10
Ga Tech 69!-14
at #15 Clemson 21-17
Air Force 49-0
Miami 48-10
#1 Texas 38-10

In which one of those games would you say Montana played only well enough to win, pulling it out at the end? I’ll give you Clemson, and that one was in Death Valley and the refs were pitiful.

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By: Andrew https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-sneak-past-panthers/#comment-5011 Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:44:16 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2592#comment-5011 If Rees was named the starter in game 1, and played the way he has, I think Crist would have seen some time in the Pitt game.

But since Crist is viewed at least in part as a “failed experiment,” I think it is harder for him to get his foot back in the door, and it will require a colossal and prolonged screw-up by Rees (or an injury) for Crist to get back on the field.

I’m not necessarily saying Crist is the answer. I’m saying we’ll probably never find out if he is or not, as long as the defense keeps bailing out Rees.

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