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Comments on: Irish Wake Up in Second Half https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-wake-up-in-second-half/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Fri, 11 May 2018 16:51:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Scranton Dave https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-wake-up-in-second-half/#comment-6185 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:33:58 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2756#comment-6185 I wont argue with someone wanting to see Hendrix, and no, Crist isnt the future. My contention is that Crist, while a disappointment compared to his 5 star hype out of high school, is still a better choice than Rees. I hate to keep bashing Rees because I’m sure the kid is doing the best he can, but he has little talent and no upside and cant do the things ( run or throw downfield) Kelly likes to do in his offense. Playing Rees only stunts the offenses development.

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By: Loooooong island Dan https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-wake-up-in-second-half/#comment-6135 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:21:33 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2756#comment-6135 I will concede to you that the O line is excellent this year, but Crist is not the future. That is why I want to see Hendrix play next game. i look forward to your opinions Dave. They are from a point that I do not see too often, and sometimes I am blinded to.
Cheer, cheer for Ole Notre Dame

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By: Scranton Dave https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-wake-up-in-second-half/#comment-6092 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:45:00 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2756#comment-6092 The last drive in the USC game last year was almost all Hughes. The defense bailed Rees out of several turnovers in Usc territory

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By: Fitz https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-wake-up-in-second-half/#comment-6023 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:35:01 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2756#comment-6023 In reply to Scranton Dave.

I don’t think Rees is further along than Quinn or Clausen, but a peak at their sophomore numbers shows that he’s not as far behind as some make him out to be. Yes the O line is better this year for him but let’s just be thankful for that as under Weis we had the worst O line in school history, so of course they’re better. I wouldn’t put the whole USF game on Crist, but I would put last years Navy game on him. And I’d say he shoulders a lot of the blame for his goal line debacle against USC. Furthermore Tommy’s not even as big as him but the kid can take some real hits and bounce back up. I think frankly he’s tougher than Crist. Physically and mentally. Crist has blown out both knees and has been injury prone his entire career. I don’t follow the logic that Rees deserves no credit for last years USC game and this years Pitt games when he led us on game winning drives in both of those games, in spite of them being 2 of his weaker performances. How many times did Montana or others lead us on last minute game winning drives? That’s been the hallmark of ND quarterbacks through all of history.

Look I’m not saying Rees is even the long term answer. It may very well be that Golson or Hendrix are the future but in the here and now I’m sorry to say Crist has had his chances time and again and Rees is the best option for this year.

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By: Fitz https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-wake-up-in-second-half/#comment-6020 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:23:52 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2756#comment-6020 In reply to Paul James Cappelli.

First of all I never said Rees is “the answer.” I merely said that people are too hard on him and blame him for everything that goes wrong on the field. Yes, he makes mistakes like any sophomore will, and yes, he could add to his arm strength, but his successful career record shows that he must be doing something right. I think it’s quite likely Golson and/or Hendrix may start in years to come but I’m talking about This year, right now. Hendrix and Golson don’t have the game day experience to start right now. And don’t get me started again about Crist. He’s the Golden Calf of Notre Dame quarterbacks if I’ve ever seen one. So who does that leave us with for the mean time?

Second of all, who are you my high school English teacher? Who are you to tell me my points are not well thought out and I need to provide more evidence. Maybe you should play out your own thoughts more as you made Zero points, nota, zilch, except to claim “Rees is not the answer.”

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By: Scranton Dave https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-wake-up-in-second-half/#comment-5997 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:54:51 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2756#comment-5997 Rees is not further along than Clausen or Quinn, thats just absurd. Notre Dames skill talent, and especially OLIne is much better in 2011 then in 2008 ( Clausens soph year) or 2004 ( Quinns soph year). I’m so sick of hearing Rees record as a starter from all his apologists, then they go on to say you cant blame him for the Michigan game. If you want to use that, then I will say he shouldnt get credit for the USC game last year, or the Pitt and Wake games this year. I guess it’s Crists fault that the defense gave up all those points in the Michigan and Michigan St games last year.

As far as the USF game this year, you really put it all on Crist? i guess he fumbled at the 1 on the first drive right? I guarantee the offense would be more productive with Crist than noddle armed Rees. I also would bet that if you gave Kelly a truth syrum, he would say he regrets giving up on Crist for Rees. I dont care if Rees is only a sophomore, he has no arm strength, foot speed. or upside, and he isnt even accurate. But hey, if you guys are satisfied with 8-4, then lets let Rees stay the starter for the rest of this year and the next 2 years.

There is no excuse for Crists fumble in the USC game, but it is no worse than Rees fumble ( when nobody was near him) in the Michigan game. Before the fumble in the USC game, Crist was throwing lazers and they were accurate. The difference between Crists throws and Rees throws are like night and day. Problem is, the egomaniac Kelly recruited Rees and he didnt recruit Crist, and Kelly just last week gave us his feelings on the holdover players.

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By: mark https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-wake-up-in-second-half/#comment-5996 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:47:49 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2756#comment-5996 they won because they came out and passed the ball on 1st down the two series they scored something they were not doing in the 1st half ecxept for the one pass the tight end that scored

kelly has passed on 1st down starting the series alot this sason and that has opened up the opposing defences alowing runingbacks to get threw the line easier to gain more yards so its the the passing that is making the running backs to do there jobs easier just look how they strugled in the 1st half thats because the run the ball nearly every 1st down except the td pass to 80 annd the one on the last series before half thats why notre dame needs a coach that has the brains to know what works when he is calling the plays for the game if you can go back to every game when they strugle there runing the ball on 1st down to much

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By: KCDomer https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-wake-up-in-second-half/#comment-5995 Mon, 07 Nov 2011 23:51:29 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2756#comment-5995 As a disclaimer, I am not trying to flame this board, rather, I’d like to understand the arguments from those that I read each week at the bottom of these pages.

Is there a coach that the comment section of this board would find acceptable to lead ND? I don’t fully understand the vitriol for Coach Kelly present in a number of posts after every game. Please, what coach is acceptable to lead our team? Also, would you be willing to give that coach a pass over a probably 8-4 campaign in his (or her) second year?

It is a bit off topic, but I’m also curious why people are so up in arms over the mere idea of installing field turf instead of grass? If I am misunderstanding the plan, please tell me. I’m indifferent on the issue, but if a legitimate case can be made that a field turf field would help the program, I don’t understand the hostility based upon an idea. I haven’t done much of a study, but it seems from a cursory review of college gameday final highlights that many of the top programs are currently playing on field turf. (An admittedly weak study design / sample, yes) The question, I guess, Is what is the problem with field turf?

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By: Loooooong island Dan https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-wake-up-in-second-half/#comment-5994 Mon, 07 Nov 2011 23:51:29 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2756#comment-5994 Of the teams on the field the worst was the refs. That third quarter was rife with bad calls followed by make up calls for the other team. Most notably the pass interference on Floyd after Wake intercepted the unneeded flee flicker.
Positives first. It is sad to see the d line weakened by injuries but I like our outlook for the next few years with all of the young players that are making plays. Good to see Gary Gray rebound from a bad start to this season. We need him to be playing at his best to compete with Stanford. Our ground game was great…everyone agrees.

Negatives. I wish Tommy did not shoot himself in the foot all the time, but at least he can still run afterwards. Bad game for him, but after 1 season as a starting QB he is further along than Clausen and Quinn. Quinn’s summer in between soph and jr year is when he got the arm strength that he needed from workouts. I hope Tommy figures this out at the end of the season since you cannot put on that much arm strength when the season is in full swing. Please do not get me started on Crist. He had his chance this year and last, but still did not come through. Hendrix is the next in line, and I hope we take care of business against MD so we can get him up to speed.
I do not have much hope for 8-3 which I held till the loss against USC. 8-4 looks more likely.
Cheer, cheer for Ole Notre Dame

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By: Scott https://dev.ndnation.com/irish-wake-up-in-second-half/#comment-5993 Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:22:57 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2756#comment-5993 In reply to VADomer02.

Yes, indeed, sir. This call and the “uncatchable ball” pass interference penalty as well. There was a block in the back on the bad call on Martin on that play that went “unnoticed”. Terrible officiating to say the least. However, they got the W. Time to move on, I reckon.

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