Comments on: There’s Marketing, and then there’s Marketing

By: Dirty

Dirty — Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:34:14 +0000

In reply to willyd. "Mainstream media." Hilarious. Fox news much?

By: willyd

willyd — Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:01:36 +0000

Mike,
i generally enjoy your insights, but i think you’ve missed this one completely. Well ok, not COMPLETELY, but by a wide margin. The ND marketing machine will spin positive information to the fullest to make ND look good to the parents and the recruits. Why wouldn’t you want your child to play for an ND team knowing they would get national exposure AND a great education. ND does have to ‘help’ more students get in that might not other wise make it, eg. Zorich and Rice, but to downplay the STUDENT part of student-athlete leads to a very biased view of college sports. It’s got to be balanced and I think it’s pretty obvious that the ‘student’ part of student athlete has been swept under the rug lately. ND is just trying to get it all the pub back at one time, which is probably an over reach on their part. The mainstream media really doesn’t care or acknowledge the academic side of sports, just the play making ability. Come to the South sometime and see the littered roadways and welfare lines full of ex-SEC ‘superstars’ that didn’t have to study and didn’t make the pro’s. You don’t ever want that from ND, at any price. While I TOTALLY agree ND can put it’s political machine on anything, I can live with the over zealous bragging rights on the GSR. And anyway, who cares? Right?

By: Mike Coffey

Mike Coffey — Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:35:17 +0000

In reply to Fenian_32. Yes, they do sport-specific GSRs

By: Fenian_32

Fenian_32 — Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:56:19 +0000

Isn’t it true though that ND graduates over 95-96% of it’s football players? Do they do a GSR for just football programs and where can we see it?

Tom Lemming, recruiting guru, has often noted that ND tightened it’s academic entrance requirements on Holtz around 90′ or 91′, which ended that great Holtz/Cerrano run, and ultimately led to the end of ND’s on-the-field dominance in the Holtz era. What I have always found so frustrating is that Holtz graduated over 96% of his players and yet the administration felt it necessary to effectively deemphasize football.

Lemming did note in Blue and Gold Illustrated about a year ago though that the recruiting environment has improved at ND in recent years, i.e. they are making certain exceptions now for football recruits that they may not have made since the end of the Holtz era.

By: Joe Schaefer ND '59

Joe Schaefer ND '59 — Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:30:23 +0000

This is so-o-o Notre Dame. The hype machine is on steroids. Let’s break it down by sport. I don’t think there are too many alums who care about the GSR of the Field Hockey team. Do we have one of those? I’ve lost count of all the 3rd world sports being played there.