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Comments on: Never Accept Mediocrity https://dev.ndnation.com/never-accept-mediocrity/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:35:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: rjhlaw https://dev.ndnation.com/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1449 Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:35:53 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1449 Why do we continue to accept the mediocrity that is Mike Brey?

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1450 Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:31:35 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1450 anyone out there who thinks in this world with this culture that a program is not behind the 8ball in recruiting when they have academic standards is smoking some good stuff in the shower.the vast majority of top recruits are off the list for ND.They have to go after a smaller pool of players who can go to the non-academic programs like USC and Florida or can choose Stanford,Ga Tech,Vandy,BC or Duke over ND.It is time to decide if ND is going to be a top tier program or settle for parity with Army,Navy et al.It doesn't cost a dime to put an extra seat in a classroom.It doesn't hurt the schools reputation.No one would argue that USC has an excellent academic football program.But it is still an excellent and prestigious university.I want to win.That whole defense and offensive line on this years team is barely division 1 talent level.QB and receivers were great.Its not the X's and O's,its the Willies and Joe's.

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1451 Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:35:04 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1451 The things montana said is crazy is that why his son didn't go to ND? We always have a good recuiting class. Thats not what I see to be the problem.This team has talant,but there not ready to play.Do we need a new coach? Maybe but who We all want ND to be the ND of old unless ND brings back Lou we have to keep moving on.

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1452 Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:09:43 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1452 Rock,

You really need to stop demonizing Willingham. As a general rule, it is not good to demonize people. It makes you seem incapable of being objective. For example, not once have you considered the fact that Willingham led Stanford to bowl games and twice beat a Davie-led ND team; he inherited a terrible ND team from Davie and was trying to rebuild; and he has a better ND winning percentage than Weis. An objective person would at least take that into account when assessing Willingham.

I would like to emphasize that I am NOT trying to defend Willingham. I am trying to get you to see that you have been overwhelmingly negative towards him instead of objective. My point is, an objective person can see the good as well as the bad. You seem only to be able to see the bad.

This lack of objectivity also showed up when you were assessing Weis in his early years. Again, an objective person can see the good as well as the bad. With Weis, you seemed only to be able to see the good. You were a Weis apologist, calling anyone who did not see him as a genius an “ND hater” when, in fact, they were right. Weis is no genius but you could not see that, at least not initially.

So I would respectfully suggest that you work on your ability to objectively assess the football program. Please, no more personal attacks and name calling.

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1453 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:42:49 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1453 Recruiting classes do matter. There is a direct correlation, whil you can argue there are also anomalies.

One needs not look any further than Florida's constant dominance, Alabama's resurgence, LSU and Ohio State continuously in top 10 rankings, USC's top 5 finishes 5 years running and top 5 recruiting classes to attest a good recruiting class year after year means a successful program.

All be it you need a good coach…unlike Weiss

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1454 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:38:28 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1454 Rock agree with your comments. But now its time for fans to be focusing on a solution and who would be the best fit for new coach…. my list is and curious to hear others.

1) John Gruden – Has to be top of the list
2) Mark Richt – Georgia coach is proven 800% winner, BCS wins, great recruiter and may want a change
3) Tony Dungy – He loves working with youth, loved Indiana and may be ready to get back into coaching?
4) Kirk Ferentz – Not a Mark Richt but worth a look
5) Harbaugh – Not ready for ND yet, we dont need another Willingham Stanford overhyped coach
6) Brian Kelly – He needs to prove he can win big time for more than one season at Cincy
7) Bob Stoops or Steve Spurrier – Either may not want to move up north but they are both getting tired at their programs and may want the challenge.. worth a phone call.
8) Greg Schiano – He has proven he can build a program at Rutgers in NJ above all places
9) Steve Marriucci – He was good at Cal, success in NFL

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1455 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:00:16 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1455 Cracks me up when I read posts which cite "rankings" of recruiting classes. Do you really think these recruiting gurus can accurately access and compare raw HS talent on a coast to coast basis? Or that they can project how the kid will respond at the next level? IMPOSSIBLE! Lemming and his ilk have no clue. Relying on the recruiting of four and five star players as assurance of success on the gridiron is insane. Look at the kids that regularly enter the NFL ranks from the "lesser colleges". The majority were not highly regarded out of HS, but had core attributes (ability, determination and coach ability). Expose this type of kid to quality coaching and good things happen.

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By: IrishKevO https://dev.ndnation.com/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1456 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:07:30 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1456 Did I read that right? We're still blaming Ty for something? Get over it, Rock.

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1457 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:28:10 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1457 I was at the SC game and then watched it again on TV. Montana was right. Our O=line got manhandled by the SC defensive line. Joe was right.

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By: Anonymous https://dev.ndnation.com/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1458 Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:46:25 +0000 http://ndn.9seeds.com/uncategorized/never-accept-mediocrity/#comment-1458 Don't really care about winning recruiting battles.

I'd just settle for a few wins on the field.

That's just me.

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