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Comments on: No More Excuses https://dev.ndnation.com/no-more-excuses/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Tue, 01 May 2018 13:07:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Fearless Flea https://dev.ndnation.com/no-more-excuses/#comment-11065 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:15:19 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3567#comment-11065 Ladies and Gentlemen: Terry made a very good point. We need to remain humble, as good Catholics and Christians, and be thankful for the blessing of this good season. All victory is fleeting, as we have seen for more than the past decade. Arrogance is an ugly personality trait, and an indication of a weak and mean character. One successful season does not indicate a return to prominence, but many successful seasons over many years. As my father used to say, you’re getting a little too big for your britches. God Bless and Go Irish!

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By: Larry https://dev.ndnation.com/no-more-excuses/#comment-11052 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:43:08 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3567#comment-11052 I am one of the subway alumni who wishes he had a ND degree let alone a sports scholarship too. I have not the God given talent for either but one thing I do share with Domers is character and that is what separates this football team led by Manti Te’o.

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By: terry https://dev.ndnation.com/no-more-excuses/#comment-11039 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:52:14 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3567#comment-11039 Being #1 in the land in football and #1 in the land in GSR is something to be very proud of. It’s never happened before and if it ever happens again it’ll probably be ND that does it.

That having been said.

Notre Dame does a lot of things well, but humble ain’t one of them. For a so-called ‘catholic’ (small c) university that ain’t too good.

Pride goeth before the fall.

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By: Aaron https://dev.ndnation.com/no-more-excuses/#comment-10988 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:26:05 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3567#comment-10988 Giving those students/athletes an opportunity! Nothing better comes to mind when ND gave an opportunity to Chris Zorich and Tony Rice! That is what an CATHOLIC EDUCATION is all about! Some of you younger IRISH fans should check out these two former players from the last National Title team! Great success stories for them!

GO IRISH!!!!!

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By: D'Omer79 https://dev.ndnation.com/no-more-excuses/#comment-10940 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:14:29 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3567#comment-10940 Can you look at the next 3 (SEC) schools in the rankings?

What is grad rates?

More importantly can you tell how many of their entering freshmen football players were allowed 4 years on scholarship to complete their degrees? And how many had their 1 year scholarships removed prior to the 4 year point (perhaps so a more “deserving” or “better” incoming freshman could hav the spot)?

One of the ugly sides of “gray shifting” appears to be football players not making the 2 deep by the beginng of thier junior year don’t seem to be on the team any more.

This is anecdotal. Data on this migh be very telling.

If you have access to this type of research I think we would all be interested in seeing it. It would also say something a out why graduation rates are so low at some schools.

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By: Irish Tool https://dev.ndnation.com/no-more-excuses/#comment-10912 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:09:04 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3567#comment-10912 In reply to irishhawk50.

It’s a great idea but ultimately just one more avenue for potentially cheating the system. Likewise if the NCAA raised its academic standards for either incoming freshmen or for continued eligibility, I’m sure the member schools would find plenty of ways to have their players meet those rules too.

The only way this would not happen is if there were viable minor-league alternatives in football and basketball, which are admittedly unlikely. The hockey model is far from perfect, but at least young players have viable options that do not require the pretext of academics.

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By: Dan https://dev.ndnation.com/no-more-excuses/#comment-10909 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 04:31:45 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3567#comment-10909 Let’s flood Rick Reilly. This sort of article is right in his wheelhouse, and would be exactly the type of story he could use to weasel out of his start of the season shenanigans, saving face while giving Notre Dame some love.

Sure, I’d prefer he be forced to bow down to ND’s greatness… but isn’t this story more important than getting an “I told you so?”

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By: GraceHallChapel86 https://dev.ndnation.com/no-more-excuses/#comment-10908 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 04:29:09 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3567#comment-10908 In reply to irishhawk50.

Excellent idea. Real academic oversight linked to a school’s accreditation. Bonus scholarships for schools that do well, docking of scholarships for schools that do poorly.

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By: Jason Wlson https://dev.ndnation.com/no-more-excuses/#comment-10903 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:01:31 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3567#comment-10903 A very interesting study would be to lay out the comparative stats across non-NFL, college football-playing graduates in terms of the percentage with graduate degrees (indicative of value of undergrad degree towards graduate program admission; in other words peer-to-peer assessment of the undergrad institution), income levels (value of degree), managerial position (career progression), net worth (another way to value a degree(s)). ND talks about high school kids selecting a school not just as a 4 year decision, but as a 40 year decision. I wonder whether ND is only telling part of the story about high graduation rates. So you graduate. What’s that degree really worth? My guess is that when high school kids and their parents see those stats, those dollars and cents will really register, far more than simply a high 90’s graduation rate.

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By: irishhawk50 https://dev.ndnation.com/no-more-excuses/#comment-10897 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:56:22 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3567#comment-10897 If the NCAA was really interested in dealing with this problem they would tie graduation rates to scholarship numbers and punish the schools with scholarship losses pro rated on graduation rates. That would get the attention of these schools. I know there is always the problem with basket weaving 101 type classes,but try. A friend is a Dean at a D-I baskeball power and said the football coach always had graduate assistants check on class attendance of his players, but the basketball coach never did. The school won the NCAA basketball title a few years back. What message does that send?

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