Notre Dame 2010-11: The Hindsight Version

It’s going to take a while for the sting of Florida State loss to subside.  When it does, how will you remember Notre Dame’s 2010-11 basketball season?

I’ll remember the postseason disappointment, of course; but I’ll remember the great moments I enjoyed throughout the season just as much.  The Old Spice Tournament, the chase for the Big East regular season championship, the comeback victory against Marquette, beating Pitt on the road running “Burn” the entire game,  sweeping UConn… Denying the accomplishments of the season because of the tournament loss would be like denying the fun of a great vacation because I crashed the car on the way home from the airport.  I can be angry about the latter without thinking the former was worthless.

The Non-Conference Season

The first four games were, essentially, scrimmages leading to the Old Spice Tournament over Thanksgiving weekend.  These games don’t tell us much most of the time, but the dozens of us who attended these games could tell that this team was different from those we’ve watched in recent seasons.  There were more scoring options.  There were no specialists, guys who do one thing, on the floor for ND.

The Old Spice Classic in Orlando was the first test of how different this team would be, and it passed with victories over Georgia (in 2 overtimes), California, and Wisconsin.    The tournament championship told us what this could be.  It also showed us this team’s bane – cold shooting.  A 3-10 three point performance in the first half vs. Georgia left the Itish with a 12-point halftime deficit.  A 1-20 three point game vs. Cal didn’t hurt much because the Bears were pathetic as they scored just 5 points in the first half.  28% three point shooting against Wisconsin, 1-7 in the second half, had ND down by 10 points with 10:00 to play before Mike Brey went to a smaller, quicker lineup that flustered the Badgers.

ND survived its three game shooting slump because the opponents weren’t hitting on all cylinders.  The Kentucky game showed what would happen if the slump came against a talented team playing well, but first it also showed us that the Irish could match game against an extremely talented team when it was playing its best.

Notre Dame made 56% of its shots in the first half at Freedom Hall including 5-10 from three point range.  The score was tied 40-40 at the half after ND led most of the way.  Then Kentucky extended its defense and disrupted ND’s offensive rhythm.  The Irish started to rush their shots, and a 6-30/1-13 shooting half ensued.  Kentucky didn’t exactly get hot, but it had the size and athletic ability to dominate the boards; and cleaning up the defensive boards against a cold team almost always means victory.

Gonzaga was next, and ND recovered from its first loss with a tidy victory that was closer than it needed to be.  The Irish had a 7 point lead with 0:58 to play, but they missed the front end of one and one three times before Ben Hansbrough made four in a row in the last 11 seconds to ice the game.

A couple of scrimmage quality games remained before the 11-1 Irish would start a Big East schedule front loaded with top teams.

The Big East Regular Season

Georgetown, at Syracuse, Connecticut… A lot of Irish fans worried about an 0-3 start before getting a breather against conference bottom feeder St. John’s.  Well, ND won its first two home games, lost at Syracuse, and beat St. John’s which was showing that it was better than most expected.

Poor outside shooting reappeared in the Syracuse game.  The Irish hung in the game, down just a point at halftime, until Syracuse took control of the boards and got its running game going.  More significant than the loss was Carleton Scott’s hamstring injury with about 7:00 to play.  After he was evaluated, Scott was pronounced out of action for 3-4 weeks.

4-1 Notre Dame went to the Bradley Center to play Marquette, but the Warriors did most of the playing.  The Irish couldn’t make an outside shot, and Marquette couldn’t miss.  As Kentucky had done in the second half, MU extended its defense, harassed the ball, and disrupted ND’s offensive rhythm.  It was a game on the scoreboard at halftime, but Notre Dame needed to start making some open shots to stay in it.  That didn’t happen.

St. John’s duplicated Marquette’s defensive game plan when ND went to Madison Square Garden and got the same result.  The Irish were 6-31 from three point distance in the two games.  We all knew Notre Dame was still in pretty good shape for an NCAA Tournament bid at that point thanks to the successful non-conference season; but at 4-3 in conference play, who would have guessed that there would be only one more loss in the regular season?

The thing we should have realized at that point was how Notre Dame’s season would end.  This was a team that did a lot of things well, but it needed everything working to beat the more talented teams it would play in almost every conference game as well as in the postseason.  Defense, rebounding, passing, and executing the offense could be constants, but shooting came and went; and when it went, the Irish were in trouble.

Upon return from New York, Brey had his team practice against 6 defenders to simulate the intense pressure that was disrupting the team’s offense.  He knew the Irish would see it until they beat it.  Sure enough, Cincinnati showed Notre Dame more of the same.  ND worked hard at defeating pressure on the ball and getting into the lane for scoring opportunities.  The inside game drew attention away from the shooters, and they started to get better opportunities.  It wasn’t art yet, but ND’s 66-58 victory was a better performance against the defense that had been giving it fits.

Not clear on the concept of 3-4 weeks, Scott made a surprise return for the Cincinnati game.  He played 15 minutes, put notches in just about every column of the box score, and pronounced himself ready to return to full time duty.

Marquette’s trip to Purcell Pavilion was next.  Once again, MU’s shooters couldn’t miss and ND’s couldn’t hit… until halftime.  Marquette held a 9 point lead at the break that could have been worse but for Eric Atkins’ clutch shooting.

Then Notre Dame played its best half of the season to that point.  Brey brought the Irish out in a zone that extended on the shooters no matter how deep they were, and Hansbrough took over on offense.  Hansbrough started using his strength against ball pressure, made 10-15 shots mostly driving to the basket, and scored 28 points as the Irish won 80-75.

5 more wins followed including the Burn game at Pittsburgh and an overtime victory over Louisville.   Louisville had the last possession in regulation in that game.  Most people expected UL to get leading scorer Preston Knowles the last shot, but Rick Pitino called something else.  UL had been successful playing a two man game with Peyton Siva and Terrence Jennings throughout the game.  When UL came out in that set, Brey called a switch to zone from the bench.  The team changed defenses in less than 2 seconds, the baffled Cardinals had to settle for a desperation heave at the buzzer, and the game went to overtime.  Notre Dame scored the first 12 points in extra time and won the game.

Hansbrough played his way into the Big East player of the year conversation dusting the winning streak.  The leading candidate, Kemba Walker, hadn’t been shooting well while his team wallowed in a .500 rut.  Meanwhile, Hansbrough seemed to be willing his team to victory after victory as he climbed the conference scoring standings.

The entire team had settled into roles.  Tim Abromaitis was the #2 scoring threat.  Scott led the rebounding effort and provided a shot blocking threat in defensive rotation.  Ty Nash handled the post on both ends of the floor and helped with ball handling against the press.  Scott Martin defended the better shooting guards and chipped in with occasional scoring bursts.  Jack Cooley brought physical presence off the bench, and Atkins was leading the conference in assists/turnovers ratio in his 25 minutes per game off the bench.

The winning streak ended at West Virginia.  If you don’t know what happened, you ought to be able to guess by now.  WVU played very well, especially in the second half, and Notre Dame shot poorly.  Just in case you had forgotten how the season would ultimately end, here it was again.  Good athletes putting pressure on the ball disrupted the offense.  The shooters didn’t get a lot of open looks, but they rushed their shots and missed them when they did get open looks.  About the only thing that could make us forget this lesson again was another winning streak.

Another winning streak was what we got.  The Irish won 5 in a row, most notably bombarding Villanova in a nationally televised senior night game, ending the regular season with a win at Connecticut that meant Pitt to win to prevent ND from winning the conference championship, and dominating Cincinnati in their first Big East Tournament game.

Notre Dame finished 14-4 in the conference, good enough for second place behind 15-3 Pittsburgh.  Hansbrough was named first team all-conference and player of the year.  Brey was named coach of the year, both in the conference and nationally.  Abromaitis won the Big East’s scholar-athlete award.

The Postseason

When Pitt faltered in its first Big East Tournament game while ND defeated Cincinnati handily, the Irish had a chance to grab a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament.  Winning the Big east Tournament would have done it for sure, but merely advancing to the championship game probably would have been good enough.  Louisville was all that stood in the way.

It looked good at halftime.  Notre Dame had a 46-32 lead.  The Irish made 57% of their shots including 5-11 (45%) from three point range.  Then it fell apart.  Go ahead.  Guess what happened.

Louisville pressured the ball and disrupted ND’s tempo.  The shooters started missing.  Louisville owned the boards in the second half, closed the gap, tied the game late, and won in overtime.

The Irish got a #2 seed in the Southwest Region of the NCAA Tournament.  They beat Akron in their first game, a pedestrian effort that featured a subpar first half and a good second half.  Then came Florida State and a very thoroughly unsatisfying end to an excellent season.  By now, I don’t need to tell you how it happened.

I’ve had a week to think about whether I should be appalled that #2 seed Notre Dame lost to #11 Florida State or I should appreciate that the team played so far above its talent to earn a #2 seed.  I have grudgingly settled on the latter.  As much as I crave the postseason success that has eluded Notre Dame for so long, I can’t bring myself to dismiss the season’s multitude of accomplishments.

Based on its talent compared to the rest of the league, Big East coaches picked Notre Dame to finish 9th.  ND finished second and challenged for the championship through the last game.  It played 20 games against NCAA Tournament teams (not counting the tournament itself) and won 16.

Notre Dame needed to play well in all aspects of the game to beat most of the Big East teams.  There was little margin for error unless the opponent played poorly.  Most good teams are at the top of their game about half of the time.  The rest of their games are decided by raw talent.  Notre Dame was on top of its game in at least 12 of its 14 conference wins, Seton Hall and maybe Cincinnati being the exceptions.  If you aren’t good at math in your head, that’s two thirds of the time.

Unfortunately, ND didn’t play well against Florida State; and that’s what we’ll remember most about this season.

Noteworthy

  • Seven Irish players led the team in scoring at least once during the season.  Can you name them?  The answer is below.
  • 64.2% of Notre Dame’s baskets in conference games were assisted, 66.8% for the entire season.  That is the 7th straight season with an assist rate over 60%.  No other Big East team entered the season with a streak of more than two 60% seasons.  It would take more research than I’m willing to do today to see if any team extended to three in a row.
  • Notre Dame was 6-0 in games decided by 5 points or less, and 2-1 in overtime games.  The overtime games were all decided by 6 points or more.
  • ND lost consecutive games just once during the 2010-11 season.
  • After falling for four consecutive seasons, the percentage of three point shots ND took jumped by more than 4 percentage points to 38.6%  of all shots taken.  That is the second highest percentage among the Big East’s 11 NCAA Tournament teams to Louisville’s 40.7%.  It made sense for Notre Dame which made 40.4% of its threes during the conference season.  Louisville, on the other hand, only made 35% of its three point shots.
  • Replacing Luke Harangody’s rebounding was a concern going into the season.  Scott replaced a sizable chunk of Harangody’s board work by averaging 7.4 per conference game, 5th in the league.  The rest was done by committee, and the committee did a good job.  Last year, Notre Dame grabbed 73.3% of its defensive rebounding opportunities in conference games.  The percentage fell a little this year to 72.8%, but I don’t consider that significant.  3 more defensive rebounds, 429 instead of 426, would have matched last year’s percentage.  That’s 0.17 defensive rebounds per game.
  • ND’s offensive rebounding actually improved a little.  Last year’s team corralled 37.4% of its missed shots.  This year’s squad controlled 39.1% of its offensive rebounding opportunities.  Again, that’s not a big difference, just 0.4 per game.
  • ND’s rebounding margin improved from +1.2 to +1.7.
  • Notre Dame improved its field goal percentage defense from 43.8% last year to 42.9% this season.  That isn’t close to Brey’s best defensive teams, his first two.  His first team held conference opponents below 40%, and his second team held them below 41%.    The 2003-04 team had a 42.1% season, 2006-07 was at 42.3%, and 2007-08 was at 42.4% making this Brey’s 6th best team at making opponents miss.
  • Pomeroy’s statistical compilation ranked Notre Dame’s offense #3 in Division 1 and its defense #68.  That’s first and twelfth respectively in the Big East.  There are 345 teams in Division 1.
  • The players who led ND in scoring?  Well, when the number of players in the rotation is 7 and the number of players who led the team in scoring is 7, it should be easy.  Hansbrough (20 times), Abromaitis (9 times), Scott (3 times), Atkins (2 times), Nash (1 time), Martin (1 time), and Cooley (1 time) were all game high scorers for Notre Dame.  Atkins and Scott shared the scoring honors vs. Wisconsin as did Nash and Hansbrough in the home game vs. Cincinnati.  Hansbrough and Abromaitis match game high totals vs. Villanova.

Next Season

Starters Abromaitis, Martin, and Scott will return as will the two bench players who were rotation regulars – Atkins and Cooley.  Atkins will move into the starting point guard rotation.  The fifth starter is TBD.

If Brey wants to go with four big guys and a guard again, Cooley is the likely fifth starter.  If he wants to use a conventional two guard lineup, the fifth slot will be up for grabs.

Junior to be Joey Brooks will get a shot at making the rotation, but he has a long way to go to earn significant minutes.  Brooks played himself out of the rotation early this season, but he carved out a niche late in the season when an eighth man was needed on occasion to provide hustle, energy, and defense.

Tom Knight and Mike Broghammer, both listed at 6’8″, will fight for big man minutes.  Broghammer had a chance to be a contributor this season, but injury limited his effectiveness and ultimately ended his season early.  Knight played sparingly after preserving a year of eligibility last year.  Knight is bigger than Broghammer and showed more offensive skills in limited playing time, but Hammer has some meaningful experience from his freshman season when he showed the kind of toughness a team needs from its fifth big man.

6’5″ guard Jerian Grant sat out to preserve a year of eligibility after an early season injury.  He has been healthy and practicing for almost half of the season, so he is in good position to add a combination of skill athleticism to the lineup that the program hasn’t had much in recent years.  Several recruiting services ranked Grant in the 90-100 range, so he is a quality recruit.  When he arrived on campus, Grant hadn’t turned 18 yet.  Had he started school a year later like most people with fall birthdays, the additional physical maturity might well have improved his recruiting ranking.  Now he has that extra year.

6’7″ sophomore to be Alex Dragicevich has a chance to earn a spot in the rotation.  A guard-forward combo, Dragicevich handled the ball well in limited duty.  He’s considered a good shooter, but he only made 29% of his shots this season.  Will he make a big step forward after a year in the program, or will he take a redshirt season to continue his development in practice?

6’4″ guard/wing Pat Connaughton will join the program in the summer and compete for a spot in the rotation.  He is rated about like Grant was a year ago; and like Grant, he brings a forward’s mentality to the guard position.

Hansbrough’s intensity had a lot to do with this year’s successes.  He will be missed as much for that as for his points.  Nevertheless, there is more than enough talent to have a successful season.  The question is whether the team can develop reliable scoring options inside so that it can withstand the inevitable droughts on the outside.

Stay tuned.

– Kevin O’Neill

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16 thoughts on “Notre Dame 2010-11: The Hindsight Version

  1. The goal of going on vacation is having fun on vacation, the drive home always sucks. I don’t think your analogy is apt. The goal of sports is to be the happiest you could possibly be when the season is over. The success of this season was always contigent on a run in the post season.

  2. Patrick Mikes '79 says:

    Please, this team is no different from others of recent years; they did not make it past the first weekend of the NCAA tournament.

    • I’m pretty sure I noted that ND didn’t make it past the first weekend of the tournament in the article, but thanks for noting it again for those who don’t comprehend the written word. Your service is greatly appreciated.

  3. No argument. But, bottom line is Mike Brey is great at coaching up “average” recruits. He is not a bench coach and therefore it’s doubtful he could lead us to the final four. This was his best team in 11 years and he couldn’t do it. The FSU loss was hardest loss to take in his tenure.

    • I’m not sure what you mean about not being a bench coach. ND won every close game it played this season until the OT loss to Louisville – 6-0 in the games decided by 5 points or less plus the 2 overtime wins plus other games like Wisconsin, Pitt, and Cincinnati that were close late into the game. The decisions the coach makes in those games matter the most.

      Do you remember the decision to go small against Wisconsin that changed the game in ND’s favor? Bench coaching. How about switching to zone in the second Marquette game, an unconventional choice against a team that’s scoring all of its points from long range, to stymie the Warriors? Bench coaching. Have you forgotten the “23” call from the bench with 12 seconds left in regulation in the first Louisville game? Bench coaching.

  4. Scranton Dave says:

    Very good article and great work all year! Brey is a very good coach as the team overachieved big time to get the 2 seed ( I still think based on resume they deserved the 4th 1 seed over Duke), but in a single elimination tourney against a team they didnt matchup well against, anything can happen. I thought going in this team could make the Final 4, and I also thought ( before the brackets came out) they could lose in the 2nd round if they got a bad matchup which they did. To say this team is no different than any of the other Brey coached teams, I think is very innacurrate.

  5. I thought this team showed real character and poise unlike past teams – even Digger’s teams seem to unravel under pressure. The shortcomings always surface in the post season when elite athletes bring their A game to the table. There was nothing more frustrating than seeing Nash, Abro, and even Scott go in the paint just to be swatted away by long arms and great leapers. I realize that Duke, NC, KY, etc. get more 4 star players in any given year than ND gets in a decade and that though ND will never attract blue chip athletes and that a group of older, second tier, mostly high court IQ players can’t be expected to make a deep run in the NCAA’s – bit then I think of Butler. As far as Brey is concerned, he reminds me of Digger in that he seems to coach ‘not to lose’ as opposed to ‘coaching to win’… even in his interviews, he is almost apologetic and uses phrases like ‘we were lucky to get out of here with a win’. It also says something that Hansbrough at times challenged Brey in the huddle – that’s a sign that there was a lack of command and leadership. Maybe Brey could attend a Jim Harbaugh coaching clinic on how to be fiery; Now that BH is gone, there’ll need to be another source of inspiration for future success.

    • “It also says something that Hansbrough at times challenged Brey in the huddle – that’s a sign that there was a lack of command and leadership.”

      I have two questions:

      1. Have you met Hansbrough?
      2. Do you know what happened when Hansbrough challenged Brey?

      I can tell you that 45 minutes after a game is over, Ben Hansbrough is still the most tightly wound person I have ever met. An innocuous question from a reporter is cause to get worked up about too many turnovers or too few assists. “That’s not Notre Dame basketball,” he’ll darn near shout. “That’s not Mike Brey basketball.”

      The young man has no filter. He would challenge Pat Summit.

      So what do you think happened when Hansbrough contradicted Brey? Did Brey capitulate, or did he tell Hansbrough to shut up? Brey can be a real bastard with guys who step out of line. Did you see Brey yank Hansbrough from the game after jacking an indiscriminate three with about 2:40 to play in the first half of the FSU game? Hansbrough got a pretty good earful for the last 20 feet of his trip to the bench. He didn’t sit long because Cooley, who had subbed in for Hansbrough, took about 20 seconds to get his third foul and had to be replaced; but the episode contradicts your assumption/conclusion.

      My sense of the Brey-Hansbrough relationship is that they have a lot of respect for one another.

  6. ‘No’ on both counts of meeting BH and knowing details of their relationship, but it appears the program might want to consider recruiting more guys that ‘step out of line’ in light of this year’s overachieving group. Maybe they are the RKG’s that can bring out the be(a)st in Brey. Funny you would choose Pat Summit since I reside in Tennessee. She’s very passionate and her teams are a perennial power. I disagree that he would challenge her… she commands respect. Perhaps he sensed a vacuum of leadership with Brey. The lasting memory I take from this year is the completely lost look on Brey’s face when he was interviewed going into halftime against FSU. It was clear he had no idea what was happening nor what to do about it. You cited a few instances to Kayo where Brey showed his coaching moxy during the season – funny you didn’t mention how, during the second half against Louisville in the BE tournament, how he stayed with man-to-man even after UL guards started decimating the Irish with the high pick and rolls at the top of the key. Where was the “23” then? The guards penetrated at will the entire second half. Don’t get me wrong, I like Brey. He’s good for 20 wins a year and a strong graduation rate, he just falls short on the big stage when it’s on the coach to elevate his game as well. Digger was guilty of the same. Marty Schottenheimer’s of basketball. But who knows, Brey’s mentor was once considered a guy who couldn’t win the big one, but coach K eventually found a way. Either way, Psycho B is gone and Brey moves on to coach his next group of role players until the next Murphy, Harangody, or Hansbrough comes along to make it exciting… until tournament time that is.

  7. Scranton Dave says:

    I just hate when people bash Brey. Besides Scott Martin, there was not 1 4 star recruit on this team. He did a tremendous job getting the most out of these guys. Kayo, I think in addition to Florida St being a really bad matchup for us, I think the pressure to make a deep tourney run got the best of them. I saw it in the Akron game, they looked terrible, and it wasnt the same team we saw from when Carleton Scott came back from injury til halftime of Friday night at MSG. I was terrified before the FSU game because of what I saw against Akron. Dont get me wrong, I am as disappointed as anyone, I cant even describe the empty feeling I had coming home after wathcing the FSU game, but I dont blame Brey, I think he did a terrific job this year. Hopefully Grant or Connaughton can step up and take some of Hansbroughs void and we can give it our best shot next year. Go Irish!!

  8. The question for Brey is not one of one game or even one season. The question is, can he, given the constraints inherent (and not likely to change) with coaching basketball at Notre Dame, ever coach us to that magical March? He’s done everything else we, as fans, could ever ask for. He’s brought in great, smart kids who represent our University well both during and after their time on the basketball team. He’s ensured that they remain students as well as athletes, something that can’t be said for a lot of teams who’ve had more success than the Irish. He’s coached many players and teams to far exceed their expectations – which is why he’s won so many awards. All of that has been great. The question now being asked is, can he ever take the next step, or will we forever be a very good Big East team that should be thrilled with a 2nd to 4th place finish in the toughest league in America? Can he parlay success into strong recruiting and build a team that can do even more? Or will the engine simply not go any faster? It’s not an unfamiliar question. There are many teams out there that have been in the same place the Irish have been for years on end. As a Chiefs fan, they come immediately to mind. Always part of the conversation. Sometimes making the playoffs. But haven’t won a playoff game since Joe Montana was quarterback. Can Brey ever take us on that magical run that we see from teams with far less to work with – the Gonzagas, the George Masons, the Butlers? Would we rather be a 9th place team in the BE that makes a run to the Final Four a la UConn this year? If you had asked ND fans 11 years ago if they would be happy with a team that is always in the mix, always posting 20-25 win seasons, and almost always in the tournament, my guess is that most fans would have said enthusiastically, “Yes.” 11 years later, we’ve become accustomed to that and we want more. We want that magical March. Mike Brey, can you do it? or have we seen everything we’re going to see from you and the ND Basketball program?

    • In my opinion, Mike Brey will not lead ND on a “magical March” run like Butler or VCU because of something you said in your post — the recruiting constraints he must deal with, and will likely have to deal with, for the duration of his stay at ND. Do you think any player on the 2010-11 Irish team will play in the pros? I didn’t see any. And players of professional grade are the key to making a deep run in March. All of the Final Four teams have pros on their roster, as did all the teams in the Elite Eight. Unless ND figures out a way to get some of these “one-and-done” kids, they’ll be a top-tier Big East program at best and will continue to falter in the NCAA Tourney when it comes up against teams with longer and more athletic players in the post.

  9. Nick Schoenfeld says:

    I thought with a team comprised of so much experience and leadership that we could have done more this year with this team. I think as a fan of this program you cannot let the post season disappointment cloud your judgment though….we did have a fantastic year. And when I say I thought this team could do more, that is said only in hindsight. I did not thing at the BEGINNING of the year that we’d come close to what we accomplished. I knew right away that we had a chance to be good, but COY and POY in Big East? Hell no. 1 game shy of the regular season B.E. crown? HELL NO! When I think back of this season I think 1 thing will stand out more than anything: Brey has probably shut his critics the hell up for the most part. (Me being one of them). It’s clear when we get into postseason play against other schools that the depth of athleticism just isn’t there…even compared to schools like FSU. Although I would have loved to go against VCU, I think even their ability would have dictated they would have run circles around us. What Brey has done with this team though is great…and I feel like with our new upgrades and momentum we could have set the stage from something better. We can now recruit players showing off not only a terrific arena, great facilities, (maybe minus practice facilities), and a solid fan base, but we can also boast of 3 COY awards and 2 B.E. POY awards in 3 years as well. We need some quickness and overall speed though, and until we get those difference makers, I’m not sure what level of post season success we’ll ever see. Atkins will be great…Grant has some ability, and players like Cooley will be better than most people think. (I think a lot of people think Cooley is a big loof, but I saw the guy really get up on a rebound dunk put back against Georgia Southern…guy can get up!) If Scott and Abro can show some more toughness (especially Abro), I think we could be looking at 22-24 wins again next year. If Brey can show more willingness to adjust to different defensive schemes earlier in the game (full court press, trapping, etc) I think long term we can see some post season success eventually. Still….that’s a lot of “ifs”.

  10. If people are satisfied with a team that does well in the regular season and chokes in the NCAA tournament, that’s fine – but don’t sugarcoat the tournament losses. Quit acting like its poor ol’ ND/Sisters of the Poor with its canvas converse shoes and its rundown outdoor playing facilities losing to teams that are just stacked with one and done NBA caliber talent, playing in Mark Cuban-esque facilities.

    In 3 of the last 4 NCAA tournaments Notre Dame has lost to double digit seeds: Winthrop, Old Dominion and Florida State. Winthrop has one (1) game in its 9 year NCAA tournament history; Old Dominion – three games in its 11 year tournament history. I’m not sure that Winthrop has ever had an NBA player and I don’t think Old Dominion has had one in 10 years. Florida State is rarely thought of as a ACC powerhouse.

    The constant excuse making that Notre Dame can’t win/succeed in the tournament because of the facilities, recruiting standards, athletes, etc , is not only tiresome, but illogical when it comes to Notre Dame’s play the last 4 years of the tournament and especially this year. If ND can handle, survive and thrive week in and week out in the Big East, why is it such a challenge to win a game or two against double digit seeds. Don’t say on one hand that Notre Dame overachieved in the hardest league, the Big-East, but then somehow got overmatched by some double digit seed. An early exit one year is annoying, but excusable. An early exit 4 years in a row is not excusable.