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Comments on: Okwara Ignites Irish Defense https://dev.ndnation.com/okwara-ignites-irish-defense/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Tue, 15 Oct 2019 04:42:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: GOND88 https://dev.ndnation.com/okwara-ignites-irish-defense/#comment-23558 Tue, 01 Oct 2019 23:01:18 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=44242#comment-23558 In reply to PC.

Good question and I meant to mention that in my post. Quarterbacks especially seem to regress the longer they play for Kelly. Book appears not to have made any improvement since last season.

Then there’s the question of recruits being overrated and/or not being coached up to reach their potential. Brandon Wimbush was supposed to be Heisman material and lead ND to great things but he lost his job to Ian Book, an unheralded recruit, then transfers to Central Florida where he lost his job to a freshman. Zaire didn’t last that long as a starter at Florida.

Contrast them with Georgia to Ohio St. transfer Justin Fields who’s now in the Heisman discussion and Jalen Hurts who lost his job to Tua at Alabama but is now setting records at Oklahoma and also in the Heisman discussion.

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By: Scott https://dev.ndnation.com/okwara-ignites-irish-defense/#comment-23555 Tue, 01 Oct 2019 19:11:56 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=44242#comment-23555 In reply to Kevin.

Only to be embarrassed in the playoff or NY6?? I guess the UGa game was an embarrassment, right? This would be the caliber of game they would be playing in either bowl. So, I’m not sure how they were embarrassed in the UGa game.

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By: Kevin https://dev.ndnation.com/okwara-ignites-irish-defense/#comment-23551 Tue, 01 Oct 2019 02:02:58 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=44242#comment-23551 As the Georgia game showed this D is for real. It may end up winning many games for the Irish but I won’t be surprised if one game gets away from us due to the lack of offense. On the other hand, I smell an 11-1 year only to be embarrassed, once again, in the playoffs or NY6 game.

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By: Kevin https://dev.ndnation.com/okwara-ignites-irish-defense/#comment-23550 Tue, 01 Oct 2019 02:00:13 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=44242#comment-23550 In reply to John Vannie.

JV, excellent assessment. It’s a little of everything but ND will not win another NC until they find and development a top notch QB. Every two, three years I think we have one but he fails to develop. The trend, I fear, continues.

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By: John Vannie https://dev.ndnation.com/okwara-ignites-irish-defense/#comment-23549 Mon, 30 Sep 2019 23:48:09 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=44242#comment-23549 In reply to PC.

None of the local beat writers will dare to ask that question. They live in fear of being frozen out of the inner circle of access. It’s happened before. Kelly is very dismissive of such inquiries, and he doesn’t forget who asked them.

Who knows what other coaches tell QB recruits about Kelly, but look at his record over ten years. Only one guy is on an NFL roster (Kizer), and just barely. Is Kelly’s problem an inability to sign top guys, is he a poor judge of talent, or does he suck at QB development? Hard to say for sure, but there are elements of all three in the answer. We haven’t landed anyone as good as Jimmy Clausen since he arrived on campus in his limo during the Weis era. Some QBs were identified as our top target (Zaire, Wimbush), but they turned out to be average at best. Development has been uniformly and consistently bad. Some say it’s the complex system that places too much burden on the QB, but I watch other teams and their QBs know how to find a secondary receiver and look off a safety.

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By: PC https://dev.ndnation.com/okwara-ignites-irish-defense/#comment-23548 Mon, 30 Sep 2019 20:53:15 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=44242#comment-23548 Vannie, There’s no real way to ask Kelly without it being contentious but has anyone asked him to comment on why it seems no one improves under his system in their second year as starter? His best success story at QB was probably Rees who was also his most limited in talent. His most talented QB, D. Kizer regressed and then seemed to leave a year early to get away from the program (Kelly). Another thing that really stands out is the lack of top recruits he has attracted. Part of that has to be the lack of success he’s had with them.

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By: Tim Camel https://dev.ndnation.com/okwara-ignites-irish-defense/#comment-23547 Mon, 30 Sep 2019 19:17:50 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=44242#comment-23547 In reply to irish rifle.

I agree that it was an unfair comment.

Especially coming from the hyper critical, Kelly sucks, bring back Holtz, regulars on this site who roundly shout down anyone who dares root for this regime.

Cheer for the team or be comatose? Boycott or boisterous?

Don’t you remember the good ol days, like Miami ’88 (drool)? I am sure the crowd was all frothy during the Rice and Air Force games that year too.

I bet there are 10 posts on Rock’s House this week about skipping the Bowling Green game to prove a point.

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By: Marty https://dev.ndnation.com/okwara-ignites-irish-defense/#comment-23546 Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:57:51 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=44242#comment-23546 In reply to John Vannie.

Not to mention, these are the same eye rolling stuffed shirt “Notre Dame fans” that sold their tickets to Georgia fans for a few bucks, making it look like a home game for Georgia a couple years ago.

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By: GOND88 https://dev.ndnation.com/okwara-ignites-irish-defense/#comment-23545 Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:44:31 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=44242#comment-23545 ND beat a pretty good football team so I don’t want to complain too much. It wasn’t a textbook win but there were bright spots like the defensive pressure causing eight sacks and a semblance of a running game in the fourth quarter.

But for some reason ND’s offense disappears in the third quarter. I hope Chip Long can get that fixed otherwise it will come back to haunt ND at some point on their schedule.

Next up is Bowling Green and Van Gorder’s fearsome defense that gave up 49 points in the first half to OSU.

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By: Hoss https://dev.ndnation.com/okwara-ignites-irish-defense/#comment-23544 Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:37:00 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=44242#comment-23544 Book and his happy feet and his habit of wandering out of the pocket right into beautifully blocked defenders has got to stop. He’s the guy that’s okay for beating the teams you’re supposed to beat (facts not in evidence in the Virginia game since that was a straight defense win), but he’s not the guy to get you over the top. At least not right now, and what program has the time to wait.

Mad kudos to the defense. I thought Virginia’s receivers were awesome; they made some beautiful catches where I didn’t think the defense could have played them any better (took fantastic throws as well).

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