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Comments on: Rees Returns In Style https://dev.ndnation.com/rees-returns-in-style/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Fri, 11 May 2018 16:51:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Jack McGee https://dev.ndnation.com/rees-returns-in-style/#comment-7880 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 04:44:17 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3083#comment-7880 I have folllowed Notre Dame since I was nine years old. I was a teacher for 35 years and I played football in high school and college. Though I was never a star player, I was a winning high school head football coach for fifteen years.
A coach who terrorizes his players at this level deserves to lose because intimidation is not a primary technique of good teaching. It may be necessary for the “hard cases”, but even then, the tactic has limited results and only in the short run. Nothing succeeds like success. A good coach at any level instills confidence in his players, not fear.
I was very disappointed in Kelly at the end of last season because he did not coach, he just ranted and terrorized his players. I hope he has changed his approach. Terror tactics worked for Lombardi, but those guys were pros, these young men are barely out of high school. Kelly needs to know his audience better.

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By: jason c in pc https://dev.ndnation.com/rees-returns-in-style/#comment-7863 Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:01:18 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3083#comment-7863 In reply to bocceman2.

Good lord shine down on this guy. He thinks he is knute for god sakes. Look at sec football, even as an irish fan we can agree big linemen and fast skill players will cover your weaknesses. ND is in their 3rd year of building this team and we can all agree the talent in south bend is there. Purdue has the same model as everyone else in the big 10 and we have close games year in and year out with big 10 teams. Like it or not purdue recruits big 10 class players, talent was shown, but the better team won. At the end of the day win and move on. 10 more to go. Go irish!

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By: Dr Lars https://dev.ndnation.com/rees-returns-in-style/#comment-7859 Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:44:42 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3083#comment-7859 Is this team a Championship Contender (like ’88 or ’93), or not?

You can’t tell. Not yet anyway. Let me give an interesting example, manipulating stats to make my points.

Average scores: ND vs Opponents (divided into ranked and unranked) in 1988 and 93, ND CONTENDER years.

1988
vs Ranked: ND 28, opp 20
vs Unranked: ND 35, opp 10

1993
vs ranked: ND 30, opp 27
vs unranked: ND 38, opp 13

2012 (after 2 games)
vs ranked: N/A
vs unranked: ND 35, opp 14

CON 2012: If you are con 2012 ND, you can say, “We should have beat Purdue 35-14, and 20-17 is an indication we are not in fact a ND CONTENDER.”

PRO 2012: If you are pro 2012 ND, you can say, “Well, our average is on. We are allowed 1 20-17 vs an unranked.” There is hope.

WHAT YOU CANNOT SAY:
1. There is no hope that 2012 ND is a contender.
2. 2012 ND is a certain contender.

INTERESTINGLY
The defense appears to be closer to contender numbers above than the offense. Could the offense, around a frosh QB, throughout the course of a season develop into a contender…

MY OPINION
Maybe.

Hard to imagine ‘bama or SC letting Purdue hang around that long. But with a young QB, there’s reason to hope. Certainly time will tell–in a couple weeks with a couple ranked Big 10 teams, we will know better what kind of team we have.

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By: Joe https://dev.ndnation.com/rees-returns-in-style/#comment-7858 Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:35:50 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3083#comment-7858 You have to be concerned about the efficiency of the Irish offense with Golson at the helm.

Purdue has shown others how to defend Golson, Namely, load up the box against the run and force him to throw into tight man-to-man coverage. Now were some mitigating factors on Saturday.

Purdue got pressure in his face, pretty much all day. It is hard to step into throws with defenders coming straight at you. When Kelly, moved the pocket in the second half, Golson did drive the Irish a better.

The receivers didn’t provide much separation from defenders which required Golson to fit his throws into tighter spaces. Easy to say, hard to do for new qb.

The Irish rarely had good starting field position, which makes qb’s more reluctant to let the ball fly.

That said, in watching the tape, Golson held the ball too long on a number of occasions, resulting in 2 of his sacks and lots of pressure. With experience he will identify mis-matches sooner and let the ball fly. In contrast, Rees pretty much decided where the ball was going before the snap and let the ball fly pretty quickly. He trusted his receivers to make a play in single coverage. While it can lead to higher incompletions (I think he as 3 for 8 on the final drive), it reduces the likelihood of pressure getting to you (there was none on that drive) and puts pressure on the secondary because they know the ball is going to fly even in tight coverage.

Golson is clearly the better qb. He has better physical skills and more upside than Rees. That said, Rees experience showed in the final drive. He sees the field better and makes quicker decision with the ball.
Sure wish we could put Rees experience in Golson’s body!

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By: GJS72 https://dev.ndnation.com/rees-returns-in-style/#comment-7857 Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:07:02 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3083#comment-7857 In reply to flirish.

Amen! I support BK but with all of the supposed talent why are they unable to produce this wide open spread offense that we saw in BK’s Cincy teams and we see every Saturday from many other schools….Oregon, Ok State, etc……its the same old conservative plays week after week with no apparent imagination on the offensive side of the ball. How is it that other schools kids can come in at Freshman and produce right away…..look at USC, Michigan, Nebraska…..all those kids played at a very high level their first year. I guess we simply don’t get that top tier talent…..I sure hope Gunner turns out to be the real deal as a five star guy and some day soon gets his chance…..

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By: GJS72 https://dev.ndnation.com/rees-returns-in-style/#comment-7855 Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:57:27 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3083#comment-7855 In reply to TLS.

Agree again completely with two previous posts. What game are people watching? I hate to say something like this….vowed I would never do it….however, when I was at ND Purdue NEVER pushed us around like they did Saturday. To have a decent but clearly second tier Big Ten team push us around like that was disheartening to say the least. When ND was competitive on a National level it did not ever fear running the ball even if all 11 players were at the line of scrimmage. Did anyone notice that perfect pass thrown by Turnover Tommy I believe to Toma that was thrown as the receiver was making his cut with the ball arriving perfectly! I was hopeful Golston would show much better than he has. He either throws it up and expects Eifert to catch it or pretty much waits (too long) before releasing ball. I am sure he is scared to death of throwing a pic….BK has these kids scared and it is tough to play your best when you are afraid that any mistake might put you on the bench. I wish I could say we were back but until we push around all of the second tier competition we will not be able to compete with the Alabama’s or USC’s. Wish it were not true but it is! GO IRISH!

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By: Jim Kress https://dev.ndnation.com/rees-returns-in-style/#comment-7853 Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:04:39 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3083#comment-7853 In reply to Marc.

Mediocrity is why I refuse to support the university. Notre Dame has set its bar too low in all areas, ever since Malloy became president. Jenkins is not an improvement – and I have made it clear to him that my support depends of the University seeking excellence, not mediocrity.

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By: Fenian_32 https://dev.ndnation.com/rees-returns-in-style/#comment-7851 Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:15:43 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3083#comment-7851 I can’t say enough about Tommy Rees. I am frankly shocked at the fans booing our quarterback, what a shame. First of all, we don’t have a loud stadium to begin with, and then some idiots decide to make noise by booing OUR team. I hope some people in the stadium told those idiots to shut up.

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By: waydomer https://dev.ndnation.com/rees-returns-in-style/#comment-7848 Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:10:16 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3083#comment-7848 I have had issues with Tommy Rees perfomances/turnovers in the past, but as an ND fan and alum, I wanted to crawl under my stadium seat, when I heard our fans booing him before a play was even snapped. The other quaterbacks remarked how helpful and unselfish Tommy had been in helping them get prepared for the season. He has shown himself to be a true ND guy. Booing him at that time when he has been called on to try to help ND pull out a victory and is in their trying to lead the other 10 guys on offense was one of the most classless and stupid things I have encountered by ND fans. I was really glad that he was able to pull the game out after that.

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By: flirish https://dev.ndnation.com/rees-returns-in-style/#comment-7843 Mon, 10 Sep 2012 02:13:21 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3083#comment-7843 Kelly has yet to win a big game. MSU this week is a must. A loss here should signal the beginning of his demise and a win can go a long way to turning things around for him. Not sure he is good enough to come up with a game plan that can win but I do believe he has the talent to win. For all those who are thrilled with Irish recruiting under Kelly I remind you that we have NO corners right now who were recruited as corners. Once Wood got hurt we have only converted players from other positions. This is clearly a coaching and recruiting error of epic proportion. At this point being fare there is really no improvement since the CW days. Kelly has not developed any players to date. CW did develop the receivers and QBs. Kelly needs to do something that defines his tenure. this week should be that statement game.

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