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Comments on: Relatively Speaking https://dev.ndnation.com/relatively-speaking/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Fri, 11 May 2018 15:09:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: PC https://dev.ndnation.com/relatively-speaking/#comment-17845 Tue, 17 Mar 2015 19:27:09 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5248#comment-17845 Great Accomplishment! Here’s to an Elite 8 showdown with those big bad Wildcats. I am trying to stay optimisitic despite past performances. Brey- dont coach tight —have the kids playing fearless ball and let the chips fall where they may.

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By: Bob R https://dev.ndnation.com/relatively-speaking/#comment-17844 Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:24:26 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5248#comment-17844 In reply to Frank Johnson.

I still remember the return match with UCLA. Boy did they put a whooping on us. The ACC win is a great accomplishment to be sure, but going to the final four is still a better one. In those days we didn’t have a conference championship to win, so it was all or nothing. Let’s see how far we get in the tournament before we start comparing this team to the likes of Tripucka, Laimbeer and Hanzlik.

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By: Teresa 1983 https://dev.ndnation.com/relatively-speaking/#comment-17843 Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:21:28 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5248#comment-17843 In reply to mikey.

“If the men continue to progress, the women’s team will become secondary.”
I find this comment depicting a sexist attitude.

Saying that the women’s team has to be treated as second class citizens in order for the men’s team to grow and thrive, reminded me of the sexist comments former UCONN head coach Jim Calhoun said about the 1995 UCONN women’s team, who won UCONN’s first basketball championship. He said that women’s basketball should not be televisied because it took time and attention away from the men’s teams and only old women and children attended the women’s games; therefore, the women’s game is inferior to the men’s and not deserving of being nationally televised. Calhoun was roundly critisized in Connecticut for those sexist comments and it further deepened a rift between him and Geno Auriemma. However, Geno was and still is close friends with Kevin Ollie, the current UCONN head coach, and while Calhoun was a sexist jerk, the men’s basketball players supported the women’s team and vice-versa.

As I recall, former ND Men’s basketball head coach Matt Doherty praised the ND women’s team during a televised interview in 1999. Coach K of Duke also praises Duke’s women’s basketball teams. Neither saw their women’s team accomplishments threatening their manhood or interfering in the development of their own teams. In 2001, I recall seeing Mike Brey in the ND section at the NCAA Women’s basketball championship where the ND women won the title against Purdue.

At UCONN both the men’s and women’s basketball teams are supported enthusiastically. While most fans support both teams, the women have a cohort of loyal followers who prefer the women’s basketball games due to it’s emphasis on mastering the fundamentals over making the game into a dunking contest. The men have their cohort too.

UCONN is the only college to have the men’s and women’s basketball teams win national championships in the same year twice. Why can’t Notre Dame do that? In fact, I challenge Notre Dame to do that.

Instead of putting the ND women’s team in second class status, why not challenge the men’s team to do as well as the women’s team, who have a national championship under its belt, 2 ACC Tournament and Season titles and been to the Final 4 multiple times. It’s not easy winning titles in the women’s game either.

Every year, I cheer for both the ND men’s and women’s basketball teams and am proud of their
accomplishments. ND alumni and fans should cheer for all ND teams to do well.

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By: Bob R https://dev.ndnation.com/relatively-speaking/#comment-17842 Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:40:04 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5248#comment-17842 In reply to GOND89.

Glad you were able to work that out. 🙂

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By: Teresa 1983 https://dev.ndnation.com/relatively-speaking/#comment-17840 Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:31:56 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5248#comment-17840 I was a kid watching ND upset UCLA in 1974, but the 2015 ACC Tournament championship game was better than that. ND got to bring home a trophy and cut down the nets.

The 1978 Final Four ND team is still my best ND Men’s bb memory right now. But my #2 best memory of ND men’s basketball was this year’s team’s ACC championship game and season to-date.

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By: rays15 https://dev.ndnation.com/relatively-speaking/#comment-17838 Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:26:20 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5248#comment-17838 ACC Tournament championship was a great moment, but I will still take the win over UCLA. It was a historic moment in college basketball. I respect anyone who disagrees, it is just my perspective that it will be remembered longer. Hopefully there is something even better to come. This team has been very fun to watch,

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By: King Rmk https://dev.ndnation.com/relatively-speaking/#comment-17836 Tue, 17 Mar 2015 14:55:27 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5248#comment-17836 In the illustrious history of one of the greatest basketball programs of all time,I am wondering if UNC ever sustained a run of 22-2 against it.I would guess the answer would be a resounding “no”.Anybody know for sure? Congrats to the Irish and best wishes for a successful run in the NCAA .
King Rmk

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By: Dan H. https://dev.ndnation.com/relatively-speaking/#comment-17835 Tue, 17 Mar 2015 14:12:35 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5248#comment-17835 Happy Saint Patrick’s Day! And BTW, I take back all of my negative comments about Mike Brey over the past 15 years. He has grown tremendously and learned much about how to coach basketball in the football environment at ND. The ACC Championship and a couple of wins (at least) in the NCAA will go a long way toward recruiting more elite talent to ND. GO IRISH!!

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By: Mike Coffey https://dev.ndnation.com/relatively-speaking/#comment-17833 Tue, 17 Mar 2015 11:26:33 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5248#comment-17833 In reply to Dizzah.

True, but to current fans and players, none of whom were alive for those NC’s, something like an ACC title is a lot more meaningful.

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By: Dizzah https://dev.ndnation.com/relatively-speaking/#comment-17830 Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:45:36 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=5248#comment-17830 In reply to Mike Coffey.

Understood. Neither is a Final Four. I was commenting in response to “For all the fantastic moments Notre Dame basketball has brought its fans in 100+ years, that “one Final Four” during the video pregame introductions has been pretty lonely.” If you’re gonna go back 100 yrs, then there are accomplishments akin to that one Final Four.

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