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Comments on: Saturday Night Special https://dev.ndnation.com/saturday-night-special-2/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Fri, 11 May 2018 16:51:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Dillon Domer https://dev.ndnation.com/saturday-night-special-2/#comment-5548 Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:57:01 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2715#comment-5548 What I found even more distressing than the horrendous play on the field was the gimmicky, sophmoric, and utterly annoying crap going on in the stadium – the black towels, a night game, and don’t even get me started on “Crazy Train” every 16 seconds – gimmicks, all gimmicks. All that crap simply proves that neither Kelly nor his team felt that they could go out and put a smack down on USC, without resorting to some sort of extra help or motivation. You want the crowd to get into Coach Kelly? You want to make Notre Dame stadium a tough place for opponents to play? It’s real simple – man up and win.

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By: nb https://dev.ndnation.com/saturday-night-special-2/#comment-5547 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:25:46 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2715#comment-5547 One of the best ways to spot a good coach is to watch the halftime adjustments. Lou and Ara were terrific at correcting problems at halftime. Michigan’s new coach, as we all saw, seems to have that ability too. I don’t see that with ND. I see no difference between the team’s play in the second half from the first half, other than the defense being more exposed as the game goes on.

Personal fouls, preening and fumbles are the province of coaches. They may not cause them but they sure have the ability to correct them. I don’t blame Crist for the fumbled snap. There are two people involved in that exchange. I know from personal experience that sometimes it’s the center that causes the bad exchange. And this is not to blame the center, either. The center/qb exchange needs to be constantly practiced. Given the doghouse Crist seems to have been occupying since the first game, I suspect that was the first snap he has taken under center in a month. He clearly had been pushed to third string. He is still our best qb and under a non-screamer would probably thrive (not everyone can play well under a Bobby Knight type of coach).

The hoopla over a game with our greatest rival was ridiculous. Neither team is going anywhere from a championship perspective. Making this game more than it should have been clearly motivated USC, who beat us like a drum. I had hoped last year’s ND win would have put the series on more even footing. Last year’s win now looks like an abberation. We don’t need loud music to make the stadium loud. We need a team worth cheering for. I remember a very loud stadium when we beat USC in ’73 when the game meant something for both schools. Same in ’93 between ND and FSU. Saturday was reminiscent of the green jerseys being used against Boston College in Willingham’s first season. That was nothing more than the business people in charge of the Notre Dame brand using the gimmick to sell jerseys (which is what it was – those jerseys were available on the internet and in the bookstore a week after the game – very different than Devine’s inspired motivating technic in 1977). I still remember the horror in the stands when the team came out in those jerseys. We all knew it was mistake and it did nothing to help ND and only energized BC to hand ND its first loss of the season. Our fancy new helmets and other “Super Bowl” trappings, clearly were used by Kiffin to motivate his team.

Another season of high expectations is now lost to the reality of mediocre players and coaches. One reason USC won so much under Pete Carroll was you could see how loose his players were and how much fun they had playing for him. Contrast that with our players withering under the purple faced screams they are confronted with everytime they make a mistake. Everyone plays scared. That is one of many reasons this season is now about playing in some third rate bowl in mid-December. In marketing, we are No. 1. On the field of play, we are a mid-major and nothing more.

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By: Scranton Dave https://dev.ndnation.com/saturday-night-special-2/#comment-5546 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 21:43:00 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2715#comment-5546 Last night proved that Rees isnt the guy. I’m not putting the entire game on him, as our D was very disappointing. Hendrix or Golson has to be the QB next year.

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By: bobc https://dev.ndnation.com/saturday-night-special-2/#comment-5545 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 21:21:43 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2715#comment-5545 Where are all of the pregame big mouth ND fans predicting the fall of the Trojans? Gee, they and their big mouths are suddenly no where to be found. “Sad Warrior” – where are you? I can’t hear your big mouth and USC hate. Where is “Luke” with his predictions of stepping on the throats of the Trojans”. And where is “Colin” who was foaming at the mouth and predicting a 3 TD victory? Again,no where to be found.
Let’s face it folks, USC worked ND in front of the nation. Ran it down their throats and passed it over their heads. The final score makes the game appear to be much closer than it actually was. ND had under 10 yards of rushing in the first half. Yes believers, less than 10 yards.

The bad news for ND is that 18 underclassman started for USC that included 10 freshman. So you get to see most of these same players for at least two more years @ they will get better and bigger between now and then.

Final note: playing load music through the PA system when USC had third downs is flat unsportsman like. I would think ND was above this but apparently not.

See you next year in LA … for another beat down.

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By: mark https://dev.ndnation.com/saturday-night-special-2/#comment-5544 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 21:16:45 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2715#comment-5544 This pretty much sums up ND recruiting, even though all of you ND fans buy Tom Lemming’s BS and subscribe to his every thought’s on way over rated players, Wake Up!! ND People, Keep listening to Lemming he’s been telling you top ten classes for the last 20 years, Here you go enjoy:

USC leading rusher Marc Tyler showed little effects from a dislocated shoulder suffered in last week’s game at California.

On USC’s first offensive play, Tyler, a 5-foot-11, 230-pound senior, sprinted 15 yards for a first down.

In the first half, he rushed for 59 yards on 10 carries.

Irish fans may remember Tyler, from Lancaster, Calif., as a former Notre Dame prospect.

Tyler was a high school teammate of former Irish quarterback Jimmy Clausen and attended Clausen’s national letter of intent signing at the College Football Hall of Fame.

He chose not to follow Clausen to Indiana.

“It would have been nice to go to school with Jimmy,” Tyler told the LA Times last week. “He had a nice house out there, but it was just too far, it was cold out there and there wasn’t much to do. I don’t think I would have lasted.”

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By: IrIsHMaDmAn https://dev.ndnation.com/saturday-night-special-2/#comment-5543 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:30:17 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2715#comment-5543 I 100% agree with Matt & Irish Mike. ND football is a dream, then when the season begins it quickly turns into a nightmare. Every big game we find new and wacky ways to lose. Even if Kelly is the most uninspiring coach on the planet, the team should have fed off of the fans & environment, but they didn’t & we got embarrassed as usual. I am in no way sticking up for Kelly, but the team is just as responsible for this debacle as he is. Looks like were well on our way to another 7-5 season (I believe Stanford will hammer us, and someone else on the remaining schedule will beat us) and the toilet bowl

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By: Teo https://dev.ndnation.com/saturday-night-special-2/#comment-5541 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:24:30 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2715#comment-5541 In reply to Jack.

I think he gets the rivalry, Jack. I just think he was out-coached in all phases of the game. Against a quality opponent, Brian Kelly was out-coached again.

And I will say it: I effing hate the taunting and the late hits and the constant questioning of every single play that doesn’t go our way. If Michael Floyd doesn’t catch the pass, he complains of pass interference every single time. It’snuts. And clearly Kelly tolerates it, which is why he’s out-coached against strong programs like SC (notably, I don’t recall USC acting like this at all, but that could be that I am looking for issues with the program).

I know that their ethics don’t match ours as a whole. But on the field, when it’s man-on-man, SC is a much stronger program than we are right now. Five penalties for 48 yards. That isn’t terrible, but it’s 23 more yards than SC gave up in penalties. You combine that with the awful fumble at the one yard line — the second such fumble in that situation this season — and you see a lot of points coming off the scoreboard.

It just sucks. Another year before we face them. .. .

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By: mark https://dev.ndnation.com/saturday-night-special-2/#comment-5540 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:23:48 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2715#comment-5540 Little Lord Fauntleroy DID IT AGAIN. NONE OF IT WAS HIS FAULT, HE BLAMES THE PLAYERS. Standing on the sidelines with that pissed off look and staring at his players, what an arrogant jerk. I also like how he now has his players surround him after something bad happens so that NBC can’t show him yelling his head off. BK get over the short man syndrome and take the heat for the loss. You got schooled. Period

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By: Shannon https://dev.ndnation.com/saturday-night-special-2/#comment-5539 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:14:25 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2715#comment-5539 In response to Jack,
I think coach Kelly understands the rivalry. Every game ND plays should be thought of that way. This team is mentally soft. Don’t talk about a BCS game go out and have a sense of urgency. This team had two weeks to prepare for a USC that is not going to a bowl game. It was their Super Bowl this year and ND comes out flat and soft on both sides of the ball. The center and QB exchange is a basic fundamental of the game so how to you botch that in crucial point of the game. All the hype on Manti Teo is a joke, he misses way to many tackles and the defense gave up way to many 3rd down conversions. This team will be lucky to finisch 7-5. Did anybody flip changes back and forth on Standford? If you thought USC pounded the football, think again Standford is huge up front and having Andrew Luck is the icing on the cake.

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By: Felipe https://dev.ndnation.com/saturday-night-special-2/#comment-5536 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:34:26 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=2715#comment-5536 I was there. Bitterly disappointed. ND doesn’t sell real stadium hot dogs anymore. Just some chewy foot longs that almost made me barf. And I’ll voice the sentiment of section 109: it’s not the coaching. The players did not step up. Rees is good against crappy teams. But last night he looked like a scared high school quarterback. And Crist, man…just tragic.

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