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Comments on: Sixes and Sevens https://dev.ndnation.com/sixes-and-sevens/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Fri, 11 May 2018 16:36:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: jcsheridan https://dev.ndnation.com/sixes-and-sevens/#comment-3701 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:34:13 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=1846#comment-3701 Great topic and have to admit that I am a bit giddy with the success they have had this year. Overall, I was not expecting all that much from this team this year considering how tough the BE is and also I considered this to be one of the least athletic teams in recent memory. Not tryin to take a shot at anybody, more of identifying the fact that almost every tema
in the conference is more athletic than the irish, and nd is beating them with tough, hard-nosed. Fundamental bball. Its quite impressive and I must say an absolute joy to take incertainly the college bball landscape of today helps- having the most talented
Players leave early benefits a squad like this team that is littered with maturity and tough kids that play their roles extremely well.
It has been a very good season so far, here’s to it becoming a great one!

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By: CJW https://dev.ndnation.com/sixes-and-sevens/#comment-3700 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:12:19 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=1846#comment-3700 Alex,

I agree with your 3 points. Murphey is a PF but he is like 6’11 and was a true pivot man so he would be the last big man I can rememer. I think 7ft beasts are pretty rare even in the NBA, the problem is there are usually a few at any given time in the BE.

Dependence on the 3 mixed with sub par D has done us in……..I think we are better this year using the 3 more as a weapon rather than a staple.

Depth……I actually think depth can be overated. I say this because in the NBA I have seen teams with very short benches make it the finals or win it. Houston back in the 90s won two championships basically playing 7 guys. Ofcourse Hakeem is a hall of fame big man so there you go. Injury and foul trouble are the concerns when you are as thin as ND is. If they stay healthy and play smart I don’t think it will hurt them this year.

With Cooley and Atkinks moving into the starting lineup next year I think we will have another good 5 with a short bench……I wonder if this is because we don’t get many pheonom frosh or is it just Brey’s style.

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By: Terry https://dev.ndnation.com/sixes-and-sevens/#comment-3698 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 04:51:34 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=1846#comment-3698 In reply to Mike in Chicago.

Minor nit — the last time ND won two games in the NCAA tourney was in 2003, not 2002.

In 2003, ND beat Wisconsin-Milwaukee and Illinois in the NCAA tournament before falling to Arizona in the Sweet 16 round. By contrast, in 2002 ND beat Charlotte in the first round, but then lost to Duke in the second round.

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By: Scranton Dave https://dev.ndnation.com/sixes-and-sevens/#comment-3697 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 04:38:03 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=1846#comment-3697 I hope this is the year they do well in the NCAAs. I hate to say this, but last years team was better without Harnagody and he was the worst player on the floor in the NCAA Tourney loss to an Old Dominion team that didnt impress me at all. They played well in the BE Tourney last year beating Seton Hall and Pitt and losing a close one to a West Virginia team that made the Final Four. I think this team has it in them to make 2 nice runs ( BE and NCAA Tourneys) in March! Go Irish!

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By: Alex https://dev.ndnation.com/sixes-and-sevens/#comment-3696 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 02:47:45 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=1846#comment-3696 In reply to CJW.

Generally it has seemed that ND’s lack of a tournament run have come down to three things

Dependence on the 3-ball / a non-functional offense when the 3-ball went cold

Lack of quality size inside – we haven’t had a really good true center in my memory, Turin Francis unfortunately never became a dominant force in the paint. Luckily the game has evolved, the power forwards seem to be more en vogue, and there aren’t many true big men that we have to deal with

Lack of depth – It has often seemed like the first 5 can hang with anyone, but beyond that it’s a roll of the dice, particularly with forward. Guards we have had better luck with. I like the fact that Cooley can come off the bench and provide a spark at times, or at minimum, provide a big body on D.

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By: El Kabong https://dev.ndnation.com/sixes-and-sevens/#comment-3695 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:06:04 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=1846#comment-3695 In reply to CJW.

Just a couple years ago — they won 45 games in a row at home

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By: Mike in Chicago https://dev.ndnation.com/sixes-and-sevens/#comment-3694 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:02:34 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=1846#comment-3694 Honestly, with the troubles ND has had in the tournament the last decade (such as last year and losing as a 4-seed in the second round a few years ago), I would be thrilled if we make the Sweet Sixteen. Haven’t made much noise in the Big East tournament either. Brey’s post-season record is a blemish on his otherwise great tenure, in my opinion. Hope this is the year we turn that around!

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By: CJW https://dev.ndnation.com/sixes-and-sevens/#comment-3693 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:42:33 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=1846#comment-3693 How about this question….what was the last ND BBall team to go undefeated for the season at home??

I think they have a good chance of that with 2 remaining home games, one easier, one harder.

Look no matter what this team does, it is a great team and has given us a wonderful regular season.

I would love to see ND go far in BE and NCAA tourneys. Some of Brey’s early outs have been hard to explain other than that we used to sort of have a habit of fading at the end of the season. Last year reversed that and I think we will play strong unti lthe end this year as well. People claim fatigue, but I am not sure. I think it is mental toughness and with Ben we now have it. Hopefully it rubs off.

As hot as we are right now I don’t see us going less than 3-2 down the stretch. A loss or two before the tourney won’t be a bad thing. Look at how we responded after the 2 road losses……7 in a row and a few against ranked. This team did the same thing to end the season last year. I know I am a dreamer, but maybe this team just doesn’t lose again. Wins the BE tourney and then NCAA and becomes ND’s greatest team ever……….Look people Butler went to the final game last year, anything can happen!

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By: Okcirish https://dev.ndnation.com/sixes-and-sevens/#comment-3692 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:21:32 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=1846#comment-3692 Very nicely stated. Young fans tend to forget history, so it is good to be reminded of the “Seven”.

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By: IrishPunk https://dev.ndnation.com/sixes-and-sevens/#comment-3691 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:58:26 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=1846#comment-3691 Comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges.

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