Comments on: Stunning Collapse

By: LetsGoND

LetsGoND — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:13:58 +0000

In reply to Brian 96.

Brian 96 said, “Brian Kelly is not presiding over the lowest point.”
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Under Kelly, remember when Navy hung almost 40 points on ND, last year, in a blow out — does that ring a bell?

He is presiding over what’s been deemed ND’s worst loss in 50 years.

Brian 96 said, “Remember Charlie Weis (2007) 3-9”
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After there was a mass exodus of pro talent leaving the team.

Oh, and I agree with you about ND needing more beasts on defense. They’ve needed that for years. If they would have, who know what they would have accomplished.

By: Brian 96

Brian 96 — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:09:08 +0000

In reply to mark.

ND Mike,
Brian Kelly is not presiding over the lowest point.
Remember Charlie Weis (2007) 3-9 — does that ring a bell?

I don’t think the coaches are the problem. This has been said before, but we need about 3-4 more beasts on defense who don’t shower, eat steel for snacks, and have to be kept in a cage all week before the game.
ND won’t get those savage defensive players who were born with screws loose. We’ll be competitive, though. If we had one inhuman monster on defense right now we’d have won both of the first two games.

By: Ryan O

Ryan O — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:14:45 +0000

In reply to jabe7. They are not better than both teams as the scoreboard is what matters.

By: Ryan O

Ryan O — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:13:59 +0000

In reply to njinfl. Did you go to Wake Forest or are you a close personal friend of Coach Grobe? He is not, nor would he ever be the right hire for ND. He can't recruit and he is not a name coach by any means. Very good for Wake but no school bigger than that. Meyer is who they should have found a way to get before Weiss and no one would be talking about what is wring with ND

By: mark

mark — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:28:28 +0000

I understand when Coach Stoops was contacted by ND after Charlie(who by the way if you remember put ND football back on the map) asked for 5 things to come and coach at ND. 6 exceptions(low grades) a year, ND said NO, 6 JC transfer’s, ND said no, and atheletic dorm, ND said NO. Training table ND said Yes!!! And about 5 million a year ND said NO!! It’s over, the decisions about the football team aren’t up to Jack, it’s the ND board. I do think they will win this weekend, but it just prolongs the misery. Join the Atlantic 10 or USA conference in football, and keep the acceptance requirements at the IVY league level for football players. I hear the $80 per ticket this weekend (premium game charge) has a ton to be bought. Don’t be surprised if the stadium is full of Spartan colors.

By: NDMIKE

NDMIKE — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:38:24 +0000

Notre Dame is losing in ways that are beyond my imagination. I sat down and took inventory of the past thirty years of football coaches at Notre Dame, and the utter failure is stunning. Gerry Faust is out of coaching. Bob Davie is out of coaching. Tyrone Willingham is out of coaching. Charlie Weis will forever be a coordinator because he certainly isn’t a head coach. That is the answer to this never ending nightmare Notre Dame football is putting its fans through. There is something dramatically wrong with Notre Dame’s hiring practices for football coaches. As for Brian Kelly, the jury is till out. These debacles that he has led though are really pushing the envelope of futility. Brian Kelly is currently 8-7 with debacles against Michigan (2010), Tulsa (2010), Navy (2010), South Florida (2011), and Michigan (2011). Those 5 losses were not your regular losses. They consisted of coaching so inept that it redefines the word inept. I am not going to relive the game the last Saturday, because it brings on too much pain. All I know is, if Brian Kelly flames out; and the current trajectory points in that direction, we are talking about the utter failure of the University’s hiring practices. 5 out of 6 failures in head football coaches coach points to Notre Dame needing a new process for evaluating and selecting head coaches. I like Brian Kelly, and I deeply want him to be great, but the facts are, he has presided over the lowest moments in Notre Dame’s history let alone football history. The tragic week that resulted in Declan Sullivan’s death, and the subsequent loss to Tulsa was rock bottom. The losses to South Florida and Michigan in 2011 were unlike anything I have ever witnessed on a football field. I am a Quality Manager by trade, and in manufacturing, the root cause of problems are typically process related issues. Notre Dame’s hiring process for Head Football Coaches needs to be re-engineered becaused its results are epic failures.

By: Hoss

Hoss — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:16:54 +0000

In reply to Scott.

Heroic comebacks? Sure, if you consider a bout between two mediocre teams to be “heroic” (and are you seriously using that word?) in any sense of the term. It was a race to the bottom, and unfortunately, the Irish wanted it more.

And can we stop with the whole “Denard under-throws on purpose” meme. His throwing game is terrible, there’s nothing intentional about it.

By: IrIsHMaDmAn

IrIsHMaDmAn — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:14:41 +0000

I am a lifelong fan and in no way saying I’m giving up on the Irish, but how in your right mind can you have any optimism about this season after watching the first two games? And please do not tell me about the mistakes, turnovers, etc. etc. that would have us sitting at 2-0. Shoulda, Coulda, and Woulda makes a great slogan for next years “shirt” Having said that, GO IRISH!!!! Prove my jaded pessimistic mick ass wrong

By: mark

mark — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:24:25 +0000

A couple of lingering thoughts, Kelly won at Cinci with Dantonio’s recruits, ND recruiting classes are always over rated because every Irish fan listen’s to everything Tom Lemming has to says, your his biggest client’s. And let’s just be honest, you can’t get SEC kids into ND, IT’S ABOUT DEFENSIVE POWER AND SPEED. Could you imagine ND playing a SEC schedule?? They have 6 more easy wins, I hope they take advantage of it.

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:06:54 +0000

In reply to Doyle. Although I agree with you for the most part, the team is still melting down in the same situations, still commiting undisciplined penalties that kill drives, turning the ball over far too often, etc. The flashes of brilliance are marred by mistakes. That said, some things are moving in the right direction while other aspects are still the same. Overall, I do see upside, but the small things need to be fixed or this team is going nowhere.