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Comments on: The Rock Report: What Would Rockne Do? https://dev.ndnation.com/the-rock-report-what-would-rockne-do/ The Independent Voice of Notre Dame Athletics Tue, 01 May 2018 13:07:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Peter Herrly https://dev.ndnation.com/the-rock-report-what-would-rockne-do/#comment-13142 Sat, 11 May 2013 11:24:57 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3892#comment-13142 Very seriously — that is exactly right. But our crowd is not “savvy” in this regard. It could be seen as a detail, but it is a crucial detail — we just simply start to make noise too late to have any effect. I’ve actually got documentation on that based on two decades of looking at this issue
The various “inputs” need to be better themselves, and better coordinated amongst themselves, to help us all out in this regard.
We do not NEED any bigger screens to help, though if used correctly they could help to some extent.
This is a serious issue, the problem has complex origins and requires a comprehensive approach to solve, as are most tough problems. But you are a serious fan, with a serious site which has done much for our ND “Nation” which is why I have kept banging the drums on this thread.

By the way – the compromise solution for the scoreboards is to make 100% use of the same exact scoreboard surface area we already have now. Which would mean, electrifying the whole surface, with the default view being the way the boards are now, but with the capcity to switch to a full screen as required.

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By: brad Chicago https://dev.ndnation.com/the-rock-report-what-would-rockne-do/#comment-13139 Sat, 11 May 2013 05:35:56 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3892#comment-13139 I don’t think anyone should confuse anecdote with evidence. Some people like Jumbotrons some do not. What we have here is three quotes from people who believe the same as the writer. I do not think that should be confused with full and complete sampling of people who attend college football games.

Moreover, the word authentic seems misplaced. It seems old and new are being replaced with authentic and by extension inauthentic. Careful using this pretext anything new is inauthentic. Innovations of the forward pass may not have seemed authentic to the game in the 20s but imagine modern football without it. You may not like it but I would say that fact that 90 percent (or more) college football teams having Jumbotrons would be an check in the “authentic” part of the game but not certainly part of the original game of football. (much like the forward pass)

I applaud your passion. I do not care for Jumbotrons but that is just my humble opinion and I would not assume that I know the mind of a man like Rockne who is long dead. My guess is if you made a chart you’d find division along line of age. If I’m right then the older opinions will eventually die out and those of the younger generation will win out.

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By: Mike Coffey https://dev.ndnation.com/the-rock-report-what-would-rockne-do/#comment-13138 Fri, 10 May 2013 23:15:18 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3892#comment-13138 In reply to Peter Herrly.

You cheer/make noise when the opponent is trying to line up to call their play to distract them, and you cheer/make noise whenever something good happens that benefits ND, whether on offense or defense.

Not difficult.

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By: JAC https://dev.ndnation.com/the-rock-report-what-would-rockne-do/#comment-13137 Fri, 10 May 2013 19:19:05 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3892#comment-13137 In reply to Terry.

Only if you’re not just old, but *also* a ‘quiet-please’ type.

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By: Mark https://dev.ndnation.com/the-rock-report-what-would-rockne-do/#comment-13135 Fri, 10 May 2013 01:27:08 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3892#comment-13135 In reply to Mike Coffey.

Basketball and hockey are completely different sports. They are both played in one continues motion back and forth without breaks. After each play in football analysis can be done with highlights shown. When a play is stopped and officially reviewed for either sport the entire game comes to a halt and that is the same for football. Stoppage of play accompanied with an official review is different. In those circumstances replays would not be reiterated, I agree. Replays of other game changing plays (which is basically every play) would be shown though, at least I would guess. David Grimes’s diving catch at Stanford in 2007 was probably shown on the video screen prior to it being officially reviewed and if it happened in SB the story would probably be the same(if we had one haha).Point is, replays are instant and when they are under further review they will then be stopped.

You don’t have to physically harm someone to get your point across. If you did something wrong and 80,000 people continued to yell at you, you’d probably blush. In effect, you would try extra hard for the calls to be right on. Repetitive public humiliation off a call/no call in front of 80,000 is the incentive you seek. I want a fair game called and aside from last season we seem to have been on the short end of the stick. When players see a missed call and it is reaffirmed/magnified, they will have extra fuel in the tank to play with. That fuel is to be used for playing harder and going the extra mile because of the refs. The extra fuel should NOT be used to harm the refs.

I would guess at some point you have missed something and went home to get a closer look at the recording. Sitting hundreds of feet away you must have missed something at least once.

Again, I DO NOT WANT ANYONE HARMED. I am NOT espousing injury upon anyone. You don’t have to spank someone for them to understand. Physical pain is not the only motivating factor.

I’m sure we can both agree on another 12-0 season :-)Thanks for the site 🙂 Let’s GO IRISH

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By: Peter Herrly https://dev.ndnation.com/the-rock-report-what-would-rockne-do/#comment-13134 Thu, 09 May 2013 22:39:23 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3892#comment-13134 Mike,
To rebut one of your points, when you saym”3) Anyone who needs video stimulation to cheer or to be told when to cheer is too stupid to attend a Notre Dame football game” are you not forgetting that ND has had a group of students for a very long time called “cheerleaders” whose original function was to lead cheers? Plus, most of ous in ND Stadium do not in fact know the optimum ways/moments to cheer.

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By: Ed Mattingly https://dev.ndnation.com/the-rock-report-what-would-rockne-do/#comment-13133 Thu, 09 May 2013 21:11:35 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3892#comment-13133 Increase game day excitement is a must. For 20 years ND was morbid compared to earlier years. Get cheerleaders to lead cheers instead of flips and dances. Cell phone app is great idea since everyone has a cell phone nowadays and can watch replays again and again if they choose to do so, rather than one time on Jumbotron. Heck, work a deal with NBC to allow live streaming to cell phones within the stadium. Thus, NBC gets the ad revenue, which will trickle down to ND in the next contract negotiation. Finally, loud music via audio only is OK, but Jumbotron is NOT OK. Ed

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By: Mike Coffey https://dev.ndnation.com/the-rock-report-what-would-rockne-do/#comment-13132 Thu, 09 May 2013 19:45:13 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3892#comment-13132 In reply to Mark.

Your example says if the crowd can watch the calls a bunch of times (assuming they’d be shown on the screen, which history at ND tells us they won’t), they’ll give the refs incentive to give ND calls, or at least not to make bad calls. What incentive is that if not the threat of harm? If they’re going to be punished by their overseers, a TV screen isn’t needed for that. They know if a call they made was bad or not — ask any referee out there — so the refs don’t need the screen to tell them that. And I don’t need a screen to tell me when a ref potentially has made a crappy call.

So given those things, how will the presence of a giant TV screen in ND Stadium benefit ND from an officiating standpoint? The crowd will yell more? Again, refs don’t give a crap about the crowd unless they feel that crowd is going to injure them. Is that what you’re espousing?

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By: Terry https://dev.ndnation.com/the-rock-report-what-would-rockne-do/#comment-13131 Thu, 09 May 2013 19:16:26 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3892#comment-13131 In reply to JAC.

Your remark “get the crowd loud and ostracize the blue-hair quiet please crowd.”

IOW – screw the old timers – like me.

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By: Mark https://dev.ndnation.com/the-rock-report-what-would-rockne-do/#comment-13130 Thu, 09 May 2013 18:28:22 +0000 https://dev.ndnation.com/?p=3892#comment-13130 In reply to Mike Coffey.

To answer Mike, No. You should let people answer the question on the boards when one is asked. There is a BIG BIG difference between a fan freaking out and screaming and killing someone. Don’t skirt the issue in question by throwing out wild accusations of someone implying the endorsement of murder 😉

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